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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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How much would 4:10's be?

That's pretty much the question. I love my truck, but it's begging for 4:10's (and a tuner and a CAI).
 
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 07:21 PM
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Ummmm....40?

j/k man. I really don't know...just thought I'd interject a little corny "dewserb" humor.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 07:33 PM
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Man, I wish they cost $40, I'm sure someone will post up something like $1000!
 
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 10:37 PM
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Gear swaps differ from place to place. I had my ranger regeared and it was $250 with me supply everything, fluid, gears, install kit, new bearings etc.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 11:01 PM
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What's the best company that makes the gears? Ford Racing?
 
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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should be about $200-300 for parts...and about $250-300 for labor. Your lucky you live in a fairly low Cost of Living area.

I've been quoted about $1,000 for the intall on each axle ($2k total)...but I live in very high Cost of Living areas.



yeah, I'd stick with Ford Racing stuff
 
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 11:52 AM
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Ok, thanks guys!
 
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 08:02 PM
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read into past reviews, i believe that many have had alot of problems with 4.10s whinning, even with different brands..... havnt head the same problem with different ratios, but something to look into....
 
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Tylus
should be about $200-300 for parts...and about $250-300 for labor. Your lucky you live in a fairly low Cost of Living area.

I've been quoted about $1,000 for the intall on each axle ($2k total)...but I live in very high Cost of Living areas.



yeah, I'd stick with Ford Racing stuff
i live the midwest (cheap) and i cant find anyone to do it for less than $2500-3000

if i could do it for 1200 or less i would write the check today...
 
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 09:47 PM
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First off... unless you are going with bigger tires, have a stick shift, or planning on hauling heavy loads... you do not need gears. You will do nothing but waste gas on the highway. City, yeah, it will help a little... but not much.

Perfomance wise, it will help 0-60s. Negative side, you will be taking away from the top end speed.

Not to mention you will need to recaliberate the speedometer.



I did it to mine only because the stock 3.55s do not belong a on a stick shift truck. Heck, 4.10s don't even cut the mustard sometimes... but it's a heck of a lot better than the 3.55s.

Why? It makes launching the truck a lot less difficult on the clutch, plus it helps towing trailers, which extends the life of the truck.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 10:19 PM
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First off... unless you are going with bigger tires, have a stick shift, or planning on hauling heavy loads... you do not need gears. You will do nothing but waste gas on the highway. City, yeah, it will help a little... but not much.

Perfomance wise, it will help 0-60s. Negative side, you will be taking away from the top end speed.

Not to mention you will need to recaliberate the speedometer.



I did it to mine only because the stock 3.55s do not belong a on a stick shift truck. Heck, 4.10s don't even cut the mustard sometimes... but it's a heck of a lot better than the 3.55s.

Why? It makes launching the truck a lot less difficult on the clutch, plus it helps towing trailers, which extends the life of the truck.
You have no idea what you are talking about Manual. Ford has been pairing the 3.55 gearset with a 5 speed shifter for well over 20 yrs. Never had a problem towing with a 3.55 gearset before...oh wait, those trucks had real motors. You know, a 302+ cube V-8 or 300 cube I-6.

your V-6 is what isn't cutting the mustard. not the gears. You need to realize that a truck in with your configuration is not a good setup...and quit trying to convince people that it's the super-duper answer to everything...all because it has a stick shift




as for performance, a swap to 4.10 gears will make his truck feel like a motor transplant was done. upping the ratio for him would be the equivalent of gaining 20-30 HP...and since he is a 4x2 with 4.6 motor, that 8.8 axle has a plethera of axle gearsets available with LS/Locker goodies

highway MPG will suffer, but the average driver doesn't do highway exclusive driving. and if you ask the lifted/big tire guys, most report their city MPG went back up to stock MPG with 4.56 gearswaps.


overall, 1-2 less mpg highway is well worth the raise in city mpg...and the performance aspect alone makes it worth it...and since a speedo recalibration would be needed...well that would be a good enough reason for the Tuner right?
 
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Tylus
You have no idea what you are talking about Manual. Ford has been pairing the 3.55 gearset with a 5 speed shifter for well over 20 yrs. Never had a problem towing with a 3.55 gearset before...oh wait, those trucks had real motors. You know, a 302+ cube V-8 or 300 cube I-6.

your V-6 is what isn't cutting the mustard. not the gears. You need to realize that a truck in with your configuration is not a good setup...and quit trying to convince people that it's the super-duper answer to everything...all because it has a stick shift




as for performance, a swap to 4.10 gears will make his truck feel like a motor transplant was done. upping the ratio for him would be the equivalent of gaining 20-30 HP...and since he is a 4x2 with 4.6 motor, that 8.8 axle has a plethera of axle gearsets available with LS/Locker goodies

highway MPG will suffer, but the average driver doesn't do highway exclusive driving. and if you ask the lifted/big tire guys, most report their city MPG went back up to stock MPG with 4.56 gearswaps.


overall, 1-2 less mpg highway is well worth the raise in city mpg...and the performance aspect alone makes it worth it...and since a speedo recalibration would be needed...well that would be a good enough reason for the Tuner right?
I'm confused...

Ok, I agree on the v6 isn't cutting it.

However, you just reinstated what I was talking about with the loss of highway mpg, increase in performance, and the need for a tuner to recaliberate the speedo.

Where am I wrong?
 
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 11:22 PM
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the entire gist of your post Manual is that basically the OP shouldn't do the gearswap. Your post as I read it effectively say that 4.10 gears aren't worth it.

I disagree highly.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 12:27 AM
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do the gear swap, im in a different boat here with bigger tires but technically to shoot my truck back to stock i needed around a 4.30 ratio, i have some 4.88's and there are plenty of other guys on here that will agree it gives it a nice get up and go.

Your truck will lose in the top end but who is going to build up there truck for street driving and look into top end speed?

And one question, i dont know if im wrong on this but wouldnt a stick truck not need a lower gear ratio due to it being stick and having the ability to run it in whatever gear you want? i would think autos would be more prone to regear than a manual.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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Well since I have only gone on the highway like 4 times since I've owned the truck, top speed isn't an issue. I plan on getting a CAI and Gryphon tuner before the gears, so that will take care of the speedo. I just want to be able to that smug look off of Tundra drivers when that light turns green!
 
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