Anyone used one of these? Up to double more MPG
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Setting aside the whole thing being a rip off, scam, and just playing to the idiot of the world... the unit runs gas through a plastic tube with plastic connectors? I really hope they have huge liability insurance limits!
Perhaps the set up they sell does not use these parts.
Also, I like this wording in their return policy:
"Restocking fees 15% only apply to canceled orders prior to shipping or if the unit is returned and tested and found to be working correctly but the customer sends it back claiming that it isn't working but never called for tech support."
So either way the buyer is out the "shipping" costs or 15%. So the company still makes money off this scam even if the product is just a scam. They want all the original packing material... I'm sure this is so that they can sell the same item to the next unsuspecting person.
Perhaps the set up they sell does not use these parts.
Also, I like this wording in their return policy:
"Restocking fees 15% only apply to canceled orders prior to shipping or if the unit is returned and tested and found to be working correctly but the customer sends it back claiming that it isn't working but never called for tech support."
So either way the buyer is out the "shipping" costs or 15%. So the company still makes money off this scam even if the product is just a scam. They want all the original packing material... I'm sure this is so that they can sell the same item to the next unsuspecting person.
#19
no I don't
but I do know how the U.S. Navy creates O2 for use onboard Submarines. They use a process to convert Pure Water (DI that is cleaner than anything you can get commercially) into H2 and O. This requires several thousand lbs of pressure and a KOH catalyst solution.
If this process were so easy and simplistic, the Navy wouldn't use the old way. It's not only dangerous to the entire ship, but very time consuming. It takes days to produce enought Oxygen that is useable. Not to mention the enormous amounts of water that is required to split H2 and 0 into significant amounts.
We also call it the bomb. Because it realistically is a controlled explosion waiting to happen. It's 1 of the top 3 most dangerous things that can occur onboard ship.
The thought of sticking 2 leads into water and a simple pulse of current that creates H2 and 0 is ludicrous. And this method miraculously creates enough H2 and 0 to save you 15 to 45% every time you drive? All while at atmospheric pressures and the vacuum of your engine.
Lastly, they play on your distrust of Goverment and slimy corporations with this paragraph and the following one:
, a load of lies. I've seen similar crap on other sites with other Names...but they all share the same "theme" of "invention"
but I do know how the U.S. Navy creates O2 for use onboard Submarines. They use a process to convert Pure Water (DI that is cleaner than anything you can get commercially) into H2 and O. This requires several thousand lbs of pressure and a KOH catalyst solution.
If this process were so easy and simplistic, the Navy wouldn't use the old way. It's not only dangerous to the entire ship, but very time consuming. It takes days to produce enought Oxygen that is useable. Not to mention the enormous amounts of water that is required to split H2 and 0 into significant amounts.
We also call it the bomb. Because it realistically is a controlled explosion waiting to happen. It's 1 of the top 3 most dangerous things that can occur onboard ship.
The thought of sticking 2 leads into water and a simple pulse of current that creates H2 and 0 is ludicrous. And this method miraculously creates enough H2 and 0 to save you 15 to 45% every time you drive? All while at atmospheric pressures and the vacuum of your engine.
Lastly, they play on your distrust of Goverment and slimy corporations with this paragraph and the following one:
Now you're going to ask, why don't the auto builders or other big corporations utilize this basic technology??? Its against their business model, if I can sell you an automobile that runs on inefficient fuel and promise you better mileage next time. And you haven't any other choices, what are you really going to do? Why is it that the auto builders have to be mandated to improve vehicle mileage? Because they are in bed with the oil producers and the lot of them are in bed with big banking money.
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#20
no I don't
but I do know how the U.S. Navy creates O2 for use onboard Submarines. They use a process to convert Pure Water (DI that is cleaner than anything you can get commercially) into H2 and O. This requires several thousand lbs of pressure and a KOH catalyst solution.
If this process were so easy and simplistic, the Navy wouldn't use the old way. It's not only dangerous to the entire ship, but very time consuming. It takes days to produce enought Oxygen that is useable. Not to mention the enormous amounts of water that is required to split H2 and 0 into significant amounts.
We also call it the bomb. Because it realistically is a controlled explosion waiting to happen. It's 1 of the top 3 most dangerous things that can occur onboard ship.
The thought of sticking 2 leads into water and a simple pulse of current that creates H2 and 0 is ludicrous. And this method miraculously creates enough H2 and 0 to save you 15 to 45% every time you drive? All while at atmospheric pressures and the vacuum of your engine.
Lastly, they play on your distrust of Goverment and slimy corporations with this paragraph and the following one:
, a load of lies. I've seen similar crap on other sites with other Names...but they all share the same "theme" of "invention"
but I do know how the U.S. Navy creates O2 for use onboard Submarines. They use a process to convert Pure Water (DI that is cleaner than anything you can get commercially) into H2 and O. This requires several thousand lbs of pressure and a KOH catalyst solution.
If this process were so easy and simplistic, the Navy wouldn't use the old way. It's not only dangerous to the entire ship, but very time consuming. It takes days to produce enought Oxygen that is useable. Not to mention the enormous amounts of water that is required to split H2 and 0 into significant amounts.
We also call it the bomb. Because it realistically is a controlled explosion waiting to happen. It's 1 of the top 3 most dangerous things that can occur onboard ship.
The thought of sticking 2 leads into water and a simple pulse of current that creates H2 and 0 is ludicrous. And this method miraculously creates enough H2 and 0 to save you 15 to 45% every time you drive? All while at atmospheric pressures and the vacuum of your engine.
Lastly, they play on your distrust of Goverment and slimy corporations with this paragraph and the following one:
Now you're going to ask, why don't the auto builders or other big corporations utilize this basic technology??? Its against their business model, if I can sell you an automobile that runs on inefficient fuel and promise you better mileage next time. And you haven't any other choices, what are you really going to do? Why is it that the auto builders have to be mandated to improve vehicle mileage? Because they are in bed with the oil producers and the lot of them are in bed with big banking money.
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if it were so ****in easy as a $600 kit, don't you think ford and every other auto maker would instantly "invent" such a solution and throw it on every vehicle they make? billions of dollars down the hole, and they're sitting on this "big secret". what do they say about a sucker again?
#21
I simply asked if anyone had tried one of these in THEIR F-150. Either Yes or NO. It's that simple you idiot!
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#22
Everyone is missing the point. This here is a really good solution. I've been trying to figure out how you can get your truck to drive 60 miles to a gallon of gas with it turned off. Please share! ![lol](https://www.f150online.com/forums/images/smilies/lol.gif)
Just messin with ya!
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Just messin with ya!
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To all of the folks full of negativity and think they know it all....
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#27
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#29
If you're going to shell out that amount of cash. I can't imagine you manning up to the fact that it didn't work as advertised. The jury's out on this one. In my crystal ball, I see you bragging about a major improvement with your MPG, An increase that would be hard pressed to prove. If it indeed increases your mileage by 45 to 50 % I'll be glad to get my wallet out too.
#30
Doesn't anybody use there critical thinking skills anymore? All they are doing is taking advantage of people in their time of need. You can have all the testimonials you want. How about some actual scientific data by a reputable source to back up these claims.
On top of this, the motor companies would be thrilled to have technology like this. Their sales wouldn't be in the crapper.
Spend your $600 dollars on a 85 civic or escort and you'll double your mileage
On top of this, the motor companies would be thrilled to have technology like this. Their sales wouldn't be in the crapper.
Spend your $600 dollars on a 85 civic or escort and you'll double your mileage
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