I just spent some time in future models, under engine line up's. Having said that those of you whom work your trucks take a look at what I typed and give me your impressions. I really got the feeling that those of us whom want more working power are under attack from those whom want safety and mileage over torque. Any response will be appreciated.

thanks, Scott

 

IMHO, the 4.2l v6 should be kept and the 4.6l v8 dumped for a diesel. The 4.6l and 4.2l are way too close to each other in HP/TQ numbers... not to mention from the test drives I've done from the same model, automatic, 4x2, long box, just different engines, and I honestly thought there was NO difference. I didn't notice much when I floored... believe it or not the v6 seemed to pulled better down low and it didn't switch in and out of O/D as much. The 5.4l on the other hand is a decent engine... thing has some *****, but could use more, as others can tell you.

But in my opinion, the new engine line up should be the following:

4.2l V6
5.4l or 6.2l V8 (not have both... either OR)
4.4l v6 Turbodiesel

With availability of a choice between a 5 speed shiftronic-automatic, or a fully manual 6 speed wide-ratio transmission with a L (granny gear).

 

this power thing is a joke



back in the 70s they made do with 100hp and did just fine hauling things.

if you have a 10,000# trailer or 2000# in the bed, you shouldn't be driving it like a race car anyway.

 

That is exactly why I got my 4.2l v6

Today it is equal to a '93 diesel engine if not better as far as hp and torque numbers and that was behind a 3/4 to 1 ton truck capable of pulling 15,000 lbs with a 3.08 rear end mated to a narrow-ratio 5 speed gear box with no granny gears. No one complained back then...

My truck hauls everything fine. I never have a problem... yet some poke fun at me...

 

Wow well you must have some kind of freak 4.2 because my 97 4.2 with 5 speed and 3.08 rear would barely pull a 16 foot bass boat out of the water. It ran just fine and got pretty good millage but it wouldn't pull for crap. The comparison with the diesel is ridiculous the diesel had way more torque and the torque peak was way way lower than the v6.
(1993 7.3L Power Stroke V8 Diesel 185 hp & 360 TQ)
(2007 4.2L v6 202 hp & 260 TQ)
Thats why the comparison is crazy the 4.2 wont come close to pulling with a early 90's diesel.The 07 extended cab with the closest rear end available (3.31) and a 5spd has a GCWR of 7200lbs, I cant find the specs but the 3/4 or 1 ton would be much much more than that with a similar rear end.

As far as power goes I hope the 4.2 is replaced with the new v6 I believe 3.5 it will get good millage for people that want a truck to haul groceries.

Next should be the 4.6 an all around great motor has enough umph to pull things like small boats and trailers and is very reliable.

Then the new motor 6.2 great horsepower and torque will pull all that a half ton should hook up to, make a great drag truck for those into that(ME) and be a blast to drive.

4.4 diesel for those that want all the advantages of the 6.2 but like to run on diesel, this is your motor. Should make great power from the factory and get 20-25 MPG or program it make huge power and still get great millage when your foots not in it.
Blake

 

They also made do with 8 tracks, typewriters, and slide rules, man progress sucks.
Blake

 

If you want some power slap a blower on it and call it good, tows great and hauls *** when your not

 

I call bull.

did the truck in fact pull the boat out of the water? yes or no?

or was your expectation to pull out of ramp with speed like a mustang GT?

Again, the question is what you need versus what you want.

A 4.2 will haul a bass boat off a ramp, on a highway and wherever you want it to go. Anything bigger is just a speed issue.

 

If your going to dump either the 4.2 or 4.6 I say the 4.2 has to go, i had that engine in my 2001 F-150, while i never had any issues with the 4.2, the 4.6 seems abit stronger and sounds alot nicer with an after market Borla or Flowmaster. The injectors were also super loud.

 

Ya now that I have a 5.4 I usually leave the boat ramp at a good 75-80 but I want to supercharge it so I can improve on that.

You call bull yet evedintly you have no idea, have you ever owned a 4.2 and if so have you pulled more than a golf cart or 4wheeler. Every time I pulled the boat out of the water the clutch would slip the entire time because it wouldn't budge it at low rpm so I had to rev it high and slowly engage the clutch to get the thing to move. Don't get your panties in a bunch because I said the 4.2 would barely pull it out of the water it is just not a pulling motor, with the boat on it wouldn't stay at 70 in OD and I would have been scared if I had to try and get out of someones way because they were going to be waiting for awhile.
Blake

 

yes. I used to have a 4.2 and yes I towed with it. There are no issues with that motor.

As far as revving up your engine and slowly letting out the clutch... ummm, learn to drive. That's what you're supposed to do when towing or hauling a heavy load.


This still takes us back to needs versus wants.

 

I used to pulled a 6,000# boat with usually 2 or 3 other passengers, with ice chests full of ice and beer, and all sorts of stuff for our weekend outings. I never had a problem with the 3.55's and the 5 speed. Heck it still had so much power it could spin it's tires with that boat and all the crap we had in the truck.

As far as passing power, I never had problem.... in fact, people stayed the heck away from me when I came barreling down the thruway doing 75 mph.

Right now in my bed, I've got about 800#+ of tools, and 480# of sandbags of in the back... totalling me up to about 1,300#+ of stuff... and if you factor in everything else I've got in my truck including my weight, it brings it up to around 1,600#+... I don't even notice the weight it is carrying... I don't have no problems passing people, peeling rubber, etc.

I have seen countless numbers of v6 F150's all body styles, both transmissions, pulling double axle trailers with show cars, dump trailers, etc. All the ones I've ever talked to, loved their trucks... and they all thought they had way more than enough power.

Who needs to waste the gas on such a big engine?!

Personally, if you want to say something about the 4.2l or any of the other engines, maybe you should give it a whack... don't go off on tangents of "what you think" without first giving it a try. If you state what you think, without actually taking the truck out for a spin with various loads and doing various activities, then you have no say in what the 4.2l can or can't do.

 

I have towed more with my 4.6 than a 4.2 could. The 4.6 will never do anything amazing, but it does everything well. Sure I kinda wish I had gone for the 5.4, but I am satisfied with my 4.6

 

You forgot pong, manual roll up windows and chicks that didn't trim the pelt.....

 

Don't be an idiot, you shouldn't have to rev a motor to 3000-3500 rpm and very slowly let out on a clutch so it doesn't stall to pull a boat up a ramp while the clutch is slipping the entire time. As far as need vs want the 4.2 will never ever pull like the 5.4 I don't care how many bolt ons you put on it, it just aint happening.You say its a power issue ya it is, there are lots of times that more power will save you from something bad happening.When I am pulling something small I like to know that if I have to nail it to get out of the way that I can do that.