Originally Posted by hllon4whls

I appreciate the info provided by the site and the fact that the truck design is 4 years old now.

I agree with a lot of the other posters. It happens.

There is not a full size truck out there without a similar issue. I look at the F150 for what it is. A great 1/2 ton pickup. I specifically didnt by a 250 because of the info that I found about the 6.0 reliability.

The 2006- down chevrolets have intermediate steering shaft problems. The cummins of the 2000 area have fuel pump problems that leaves you dead on the road and over $1500 to fix. If we all chime in, we could go on and on.

Fact is that there is not a perfect vehicle out there.

Originally Posted by Roodoo2

Ford is not worried about some piddley property damage issues, when it comes to people gettng hurt then it is big money.
Come on now, does any body remember back in 2001 all of the 5.4 motors having major rotating assembly issues. If you ever visiited the dealer service dept. you would have seen at least two or three motor jobs in there. Ford will replace the motor. How about all of the 6.0 diesels in 2004-07 that are absolute crap... same thing. How about almost the whole GM product line with leaking intakes because of plastic intakes or either the silicone RTV gaskets (no real gasket in there folks) look how many motors took a dump because of that... ok, did GM make any of those good when they went out of warrenty,, nope.. how about GM trannys and the Lock up solenoid o rings on OBD 2 vehicles. FAIL just out of warrenty.. Heck GM even has admitted the anitlock brake controllers on their trucks and suv are defective, they never fixed an dang one that was out of warrenty,,, although they did talk about reimbursing owners for buying new ones two years ago,, never materialized because GM was about to go belly up, they would have if that would have happened.
Ok I just named some much more major concerns than broken spark plugs that these guys have not moved on so ... what a waste of time even expecting they will make good on it. Again it is not safetly related, is it a characteristic not a defect. GEESSH how many times have water pump bolts or thermostat bolts broke off when attempting to remove them, regardless of age..how about Ford OHV Windsors .. that long water pump bolt that goes thru the timing cover,, almost half the time it is corroded and breaks or has to be rethreaded.... If you are carefull, ODDS ARE, you will not break them , but if they do.. stuff happens... There are a few ways to remedy broken plugs without removing the head, thus reducing the odds of a major repair even further.

Originally Posted by 2stroked

I agree 100%. I also find it troublesome when other manufacturers have similar problems and folks on this site immediately brand them "junk." Although I love my Ford, Toyota is doing a much better job of fixing their Tundra problems than Ford has fixed the numerous problems with mine. Take my cold weather intake whistle problem for instance....

Originally Posted by 2stroked

Another difference amongst manufacturers is the way they address the problems. Got one of the Tundra engines with a bad camshaft? You'll get a new engine. If we had bad cams in ours, Ford would probably (reluctantly) send you a new camshaft - maybe even including instuctions on how to install it yourself. This, because they'd delayed admitting there was a problem until you were out of warranty. You should have seen what I went through on my '99 with the famous door cracks!

Originally Posted by MSH

Be sure to let Ford know your thoughts on the subject

That's the only way they will change the way they deal with these problems... if die hard Ford truck owners start to tell them how it is. Just because you own or drive a Ford doesn't mean you can't question the quality of the truck they make or the way they deal with customer /manufacturing issues.

Originally Posted by Roodoo2

Well stated,
Fact is All of the big three are having differential problems as well.

I thought the whole Explorer thing got blown out of porportion. It was under inflated tires, and sure the Wilderness tires ,as a characteristic, probably blew more frequently when underinflated compared to another tire . Any tire can blow out the sidewall and seperate treads when run underinflated in hot weather. As far as barrel rolling vehicles, you can take any non independant rear suspended S series Blazer (not just an Explorer) and literally make it roll over in a streight flat parking lot by just gassing and cutting the steering wheel till one rear spring is unloaded and the other side is full loaded .

Originally Posted by Tylus

Originally Posted by Tylus

the glass house is a very good comparison. people hear Ford sucks (or Toyota) and believe and then pass the word without truly studying the matter.

just like the Spark Plug issue. some people are just hysterical by nature and cannot wait to tell you the newest disaster theory

Originally Posted by Tylus

EDIT: by the way...about 99% of those people who did crash also happened to be speeding on the highway at 60+ mph. I wonder if that was a factor (fyi: sarcasm)

Originally Posted by 2stroked

Oh Ford may hear my thoughts on the subject - when I break my string of 7 Ford trucks and buy something else. They haven't listened yet.

Originally Posted by SMIGGS

Yep, but you can replace "spark plug" with "tailgates" or "camshafts" or "transmissions".



I guess you would have to ask the people who actually survived! ( sarcasm also )

Originally Posted by scott1981

Aghh Smiggs we meet again.

Originally Posted by SMIGGS

Yah, it's a slow day.

I was just helping to solidify my glass house comment.