thanks for the info

 

This was discussed in my plug change thread as well check it out:

https://www.f150online.com/forums/v8...ug-change.html

 

Alright, so I fast forwarded in this thread a bit. But I think somebody mentioned that the type of fuel could also play a role in how the plugs are removed. So I was thinking, have any of yall heard of Lucas (sp?) upper cylinder lubricant. Its a kind of oily liquid that you put in your fuel tank, that claims to clean, and lubricate your injectors and what not. I would almost wonder if using something like this could be beneficial to plug removal. Or its just thinking that should be thrown out, cause its just not probable. Got me thinking though.

 

I am one of those you are thinking of. My plugs came out fine at 65,500. The tech knew what he was doing and followed the TSB, but I in my mind, I think it's possible that running a good detergent fuel helps. I buy Shell, Texaco, Chevron and Conoco. The first three use Techron. Even the experts at Ford have said that if you are adding anything, just add a bottle of Techron. You can get it at Walmart. That is what I would do if I wanted to add anything.

 

I use a 3/8" impact gun to remove them now, and haven't broken one since. I'll break 'em loose with a ratchet and spray carb cleaner down in the wells, but when it comes time to remove them, I slam a fresh battery in my cordless impact and give 'em hell. F'k the TSB. The hammering action from the impact gun helps break the carbon deposits up, IMO.

 

Gotta pick me up a few hundred bottles of that. If Ford says so i'll join the club. Who knows the truck better then them. Though with some shops I wonder lol

 

It's hard to say if it would help or not. The first plug change is really the only one that's the issue. As long as the new plugs get the antiseize treatment, future changes should no longer be a problem. I installed the Champion plugs when I changed mine a few weeks back and I still used antiseize on the threads.

All of the stock plugs came out with no breakage but the creaking and groaning they did on the way out was unnerving to say the least. 22 years of changing plugs and I've never experienced anything like it. I'm used to a small creak or pop when I break it loose but then I can normally turn them out by hand. These though, man. I had to use a 1/2 drive ratchet to get enough leverage to break them loose and then it was a huge amount of resistance all the way out.

 

I guess when you deal with it all day, every day anything you can do to speed up the process is a good thing.

I have to say though, you've got a huge set of brass ones for even attempting that.

 

That doesn't seem like to bad of an idea, I really think it would help to break the carbon off.

 

I'd do that and bust'em all. The plugs must sense danger, and decide to just come out in order to escape harm. Never thought of how that would help to loosen deposits. I always thought motioning like that would cause a bust. But if you think about it, you dont have the side bending resistance or a break bar, and hand. An impact would keep the plug strait without pulling to any side. I probably wouldnt do that at 100,000K

 

I'm driving down to see you when I need a plug change!.........

 

..... can't read.

 

Well I am at 64,xxx and popped out the front 4 today to check them out and put antisize on them. 3 of the 4 were groaning the whole way but didn't really look in that bad a shape. had a little build up on the shield but nothing crazy like I was expecting. Plan on doing the back but this was just a trial run to see what I was working with. Def gonna pull the upper intake and fuel rails when I actually do the change. At least I know the front four are gonna be a breeze!!! Oh and I guess I got lucky, didn't follow the tsb just said hell with it and put the wrench to em.. Will prob. take my time and do what they say in the tsb for the rears considering where they are and no fun to get to if something happens............ Wish me luck!!

 

Holy cow Quintin!
That is the craziest thing i've heard. But hell if it works its a huge bonus. I don't think i would have the ***** to attempt that.
You da man.