I think this is changing. I'm in the military and recently I see a lot of new F-150/250 XL's around. I guess Ford was the under bidder this year. Speaking of the new 250 XL work package......ugliest truck i've ever seen!

 

If we start combining brand-engineered models together then what's the point of having separate brands? Might as well have no GMC dealers, just Chevy.

 

The sales figures are reported based on Make and Model. The Chevy 1500/2500/3500 are all reported as one model line- Silverado. Ford F-150/250/350 sales are reported the same way. GMC's Sierra line is reported separately from Chevy. The Lincoln Mark LT sales are not included with the Ford.

 

If we use your reasoning and apply it to cars, how do you determine how the top selling cars rank. Most companies have the same or very similar cars with different sheet metal under different nameplates. Is the top selling car a Toyota Camry combined with the similar model Lexus or the Honda Accord combined with the similar model Acura? Where do certain similar under the skin Chev/Buick/Pontiac/Saturn or Ford/Mercury/Lincoln or Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep models stand on the sales chart?

 

Well, that wouldn't be comparing apples to apples IMO. If that was the case then I guess we should lump the Mazda pickup in with the Ranger. There's much more of a difference there than there is between a Sierra and a Silverado. These two trucks are identical in so many ways, and sold by the exact same company.

 

wow toyotas the only ones with increases. you could read that as other companies are losing customers to toyota.

 

You need to free yourself of the notion that large numbers of buyers are 'defecting' to other brands. More likely, past owners that are defecting are defecting from the truck segment entirely. Most analysts believe that Ford's success with the F-Series earlier in its product cycle did not come at the expense of GM. Likewise today, Toyota's new Tundra and GM's two substantially upgraded pickups (first new pickups in almost 10 years) are drawing in Toyota and GM truck owners who finally have something to trade up to.

 

the only reason, and i mean the ONLY reason that people buy the new tundra is for the big 5.7 engine. almost all tundras sold are being bought with this engine, why else would people buy the thing? it has a flimsy chassy, 4 star ratings and can only hold 980lbs in the bed(crewmax)?? 2 years from now, when the 09 f150 out with diesel option (hopefully) and the new Boss engine (also hopefully) or a beefed engine of some sort, tundra sales will plumet.

 

I think one reason that the new Tundras are selling so well is that a lot people think that Toyota makes a superior producted when compared too the big three. Many of these people are probably not even really truck people, and just prefer buying foreign vehicles. I imagen that their probably a nice truck though and that is also helping with their sells, but they sure are fugly.

 

The name TOYOTA is reason enough for a lot of buys to buy the Tundra. To many people the name alone means quality and reliablity. That is reason enough for some people to choose the Tundra over any American branded truck.

 

x2

I've gotta agree on that 100%. I know many people when I mention Toyota, they think Quality and Reliability.

 

I think its funny that as outdated as the Ranger is, it still outsells the Colorado.
GM does technically sell more fullsize truck than does Ford, but GM sells them as 2 seperate models.
Whats funny about that is that a lot of people who buy Chevys wouldnt buy a GMC because they think a GMC is a "yuppie" truck, but one the other hand a lot of people who buy GMCs wouldnt buy a Chevy because they think a Chevy is a "redneck" truck. Thats the whole reason why GM makes both trucks.
Those numbers are for the F-150 only. Those do not include the Super Duty. Id say its pretty impressive that a truck that has been mostly unchanged since '04 is still outselling trucks that were redesigned only a year or 2 ago.

 

Motors and transmissions?

All I heard of was a very small group of defective camshafts..... do you have a link you can provide that mentions defective Tundra trannies and motors?

I concede that it's over priced and for that reason I'd never buy one... but it's looking like a pretty good job as a first year model.... at least if sales are any indication.

Let me guess.... you're a Ford guy?

 

Toyota is having issue with the 6-speed auto tranny. Some of them have just locked-up with less than 500 miles on the truck.
http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forum...sion-failures/
http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forum...-problems-6-a/

 

Those numbers do in fact include the Super Duty all the way up to the F550. The sales numbers are for the Fseries and not the F150 as many people assume.