just incase nobody posted , and if they did then disregard this.

all i can say is ouch at the titan.

 

So GM is outselling the F-series when combining the Sierra and Silverado. I always wondered why Ford claims to be the best selling truck for the last 30 years when GM actually outsells the F-series? I mean it's only fair that the Silverado and Sierra be combined when tallying those numbers up, no?

 

In the same breath, I wonder how well the Mark LT has been selling. I would guess nothing close to Silverado numbers though.

 

GM sells them as different models, so, no...

 

I was thinking the same thing.

Remember about 2 years ago, these forums were filled with Titan vs. F-150 threads. All anyone ever did was compare F-150's to Titans. Now look at the Titan on the bottom of the list... even below Ranger that has barely changed since 1993. I can only pray that the Tundra is down there with the Titan in 2 years from now.

 

Okay, so that would be looking at it as a loophole to Ford's benefit with the F series having the top seller, but in reality, GM is actually selling more. The fact that GM sells them as different models is simply a technicality.

 

True, but to be fair you would need to add Mark LT to the F-series numbers if you're going to combine Silverado and Sierra. Even so GM would probably still be ahead this year, but that's not always been the case. Ford typically outsells GMC and Chevrolet trucks combined. Currently Chevrolet is closer to Ford than it has ever been in the past, but remember that the Sierra and Silverado are brand new trucks this year and they're going up against the 3 year old F-150 styling.

 

I agree...its all in the way you spin the numbers. I guess GM could claim the best selling line of trucks.

 

True dat, but I was reading that the new GM truck has not been selling as well as they expected it to.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure adding Mark LT sales to the equation wouldn't put the numbers even close to GM.
Damn, that kinda pisses me off!

 

It seems for all practicality GMC and Chevy are different companies, I don't think I have never seen a single commercial that has both trucks on it. The Chevy dealer in my hometown doesn't even sell GMC's.

Combined they would have creamed Ford in 2006 as well, 89,530 vs 68,982 and that was a 7 year old design vs a 2 year old design.

 

Observations about sales:

5,000 thats not alot, but how many did they sell before the Titan? Answer, they didn't even make a fullsize truck so they sold zero anything is better then zero. They must be doing somthing right they are already updating the truck. At the titan was there first attempt so they should only get better.

The Tundra doubled its sales. That thing only came out a couple of months ago. Tundras been having sales problems because they didn't know how to relate to the american "truck" buyer (meaning options etc.) But they are trying to fix that now.

The Chevy and GMC thing ya there the same truck so they should be included as one. JMO You could also I think include the cadalac truck? and isn't the Hummer H3 based on the 1500 chassis.

What the numbers show is that now at least there is some competition. Tundra almost sold more than dodge. Us being the consumers now get the manufactures kissing are butts. It's no longer only Ford and Chevy. We will now benifit from this comp.

 

True, but as some pointed out it is about the same as the ranger. The ranger is the most dated truck I can think of without the large market the fullsize trucks get to share. The Titan is a flop, they have "established" thier name in the fullsize market for years now and Toyota that is new to the true fullsize marlet this year is far far outselling them. The Titan got alot of buzz because ot was the first leap from the Japanese anufacturers into the fullsize market.




Well those details and the fact it is overpriced and over hyped. Hit the streets and immediatly had reliablitly problems with motors and transmissions. Hard to sell people on a truck with weak running gear.

The h3 is based on the Colorado/caynon platforms, shared the same 5cyl motor and transmission

We will benefit as long as everyone is able to stay in the game, make some money and be competitive. This was the last stronghold of the American companies and in such a weak economy this was not a good time for the Japanese to make a stand. Better trucks will be the result, I just hope Ford is able to stay profitable

 

Hmmmm.... isn't the F150 combined with the F-Series? Like the Super Duty?

In anycase, does this finding also include government and commercial sales (ie: government: DPW and commercial: Electric Company)?

All I see around here is Fords running the show. Lots of F150 XL's running around with government and commerical logos on them.

Kinda interesting.

 

Yes it includes fleet and govt sells...thats why they have been the best sellling truck for so long.

 

not true... ford got the best sales honestly. most gov. agencies go by lowest bids. gm (God's mistake) has underbid and lost profit for YEARS. That is the only way they get the sales they do. Just because your area seems to have more Fords is just coincidence. most gov. sales are to gm because of low price bids.. that is nationwide.