Acetone and Gas Mileage?
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Acetone and Gas Mileage?
My uncle showed me this video on vidmax,
http://www.vidmax.com/index.php/videos/view/2090
This guy in the video claims that adding pure acetone to your gas tank will increase your gas mileage. The other stuff falls under regular maintenance in my book. (Changing air filter, tire pressure, etc...) My uncle says he's already doing the whole acetone thing after seeing the video, and says he's getting better mileage.
My question is, is it bull hockey? and What are the long term effects on the engine and fuel system? I just feel he's going to ruin his truck. I just think its a little too far fetched to be a wise choice.
http://www.vidmax.com/index.php/videos/view/2090
This guy in the video claims that adding pure acetone to your gas tank will increase your gas mileage. The other stuff falls under regular maintenance in my book. (Changing air filter, tire pressure, etc...) My uncle says he's already doing the whole acetone thing after seeing the video, and says he's getting better mileage.
My question is, is it bull hockey? and What are the long term effects on the engine and fuel system? I just feel he's going to ruin his truck. I just think its a little too far fetched to be a wise choice.
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https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...hlight=acetone
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...hlight=acetone
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...hlight=acetone
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...hlight=acetone
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...hlight=acetone
Read over those threads. General consensus is.. No. No. No.
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...hlight=acetone
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...hlight=acetone
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...hlight=acetone
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...hlight=acetone
Read over those threads. General consensus is.. No. No. No.
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sign the Ford dealership a blank check for all the sensors and gaskets that will need to get replaced. and that will be if your lucky. you could also cause piston/head damage.
don't do it.
don't do it.
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Originally Posted by Tylus
sign the Ford dealership a blank check for all the sensors and gaskets that will need to get replaced. and that will be if your lucky. you could also cause piston/head damage.
don't do it.
don't do it.
Remember... it's YOUR truck... not anyone elses... go ahead, let your friends fill their vehicles up with water for all you care. Just make sure you don't give'm the ride to the repair shop. Let them walk home thinking about their actions.
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Acetone belongs in the beauty parlor not in your engine bud. It is a conspiracy by Foreign automakers that have fuel efficient cars to ruin the engine of the american cars, so they can sell more cars (Just kidding!!!!)
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OK,
I must say that this is a disaster waiting to happen. Acetone is a fairly aggressive solvent which will usually swell if not eat most plastics (polyethylene, propylene, others...). I usually use the paint test, if it will eat the paint off of your vehicle, imagine what it is doing to other parts in the fuel system. If gasoline could eat the paint, then there would be alot of streaks on the sides of vehicles from the fuel door to the ground. As a chemist, this is actually impossible to gain more energy from burning acetone over octane. The formulas are C3H6O (acetone) vs. C8H18. The change in enthalpy of the reaction with oxygen (burning) to yield CO2 and H2O per mole of each is vastly different. Even though breaking a C-H bond is high energy (109 kcal/mol), forming C-O and H-O bonds (143 and 96 kcal/mol) cumulatively, releases much more energy. Acetone has way less energy yield per mole (molar equivalent) than octane. In the rank order of fuels, diesel would have way more energy yield than octane, and so on. On the other side of things, I think that acetone does have a higher potential to reaction with oxygen under pressure, hence leading to detonation under compression. I would like to think that science does not lie, but we could always have the Mythbusters test this one on a junk engine.
I must say that this is a disaster waiting to happen. Acetone is a fairly aggressive solvent which will usually swell if not eat most plastics (polyethylene, propylene, others...). I usually use the paint test, if it will eat the paint off of your vehicle, imagine what it is doing to other parts in the fuel system. If gasoline could eat the paint, then there would be alot of streaks on the sides of vehicles from the fuel door to the ground. As a chemist, this is actually impossible to gain more energy from burning acetone over octane. The formulas are C3H6O (acetone) vs. C8H18. The change in enthalpy of the reaction with oxygen (burning) to yield CO2 and H2O per mole of each is vastly different. Even though breaking a C-H bond is high energy (109 kcal/mol), forming C-O and H-O bonds (143 and 96 kcal/mol) cumulatively, releases much more energy. Acetone has way less energy yield per mole (molar equivalent) than octane. In the rank order of fuels, diesel would have way more energy yield than octane, and so on. On the other side of things, I think that acetone does have a higher potential to reaction with oxygen under pressure, hence leading to detonation under compression. I would like to think that science does not lie, but we could always have the Mythbusters test this one on a junk engine.
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Originally Posted by KSpencer
OK,
I must say that this is a disaster waiting to happen. Acetone is a fairly aggressive solvent which will usually swell if not eat most plastics (polyethylene, propylene, others...). I usually use the paint test, if it will eat the paint off of your vehicle, imagine what it is doing to other parts in the fuel system. If gasoline could eat the paint, then there would be alot of streaks on the sides of vehicles from the fuel door to the ground. As a chemist, this is actually impossible to gain more energy from burning acetone over octane. The formulas are C3H6O (acetone) vs. C8H18. The change in enthalpy of the reaction with oxygen (burning) to yield CO2 and H2O per mole of each is vastly different. Even though breaking a C-H bond is high energy (109 kcal/mol), forming C-O and H-O bonds (143 and 96 kcal/mol) cumulatively, releases much more energy. Acetone has way less energy yield per mole (molar equivalent) than octane. In the rank order of fuels, diesel would have way more energy yield than octane, and so on. On the other side of things, I think that acetone does have a higher potential to reaction with oxygen under pressure, hence leading to detonation under compression. I would like to think that science does not lie, but we could always have the Mythbusters test this one on a junk engine.
I must say that this is a disaster waiting to happen. Acetone is a fairly aggressive solvent which will usually swell if not eat most plastics (polyethylene, propylene, others...). I usually use the paint test, if it will eat the paint off of your vehicle, imagine what it is doing to other parts in the fuel system. If gasoline could eat the paint, then there would be alot of streaks on the sides of vehicles from the fuel door to the ground. As a chemist, this is actually impossible to gain more energy from burning acetone over octane. The formulas are C3H6O (acetone) vs. C8H18. The change in enthalpy of the reaction with oxygen (burning) to yield CO2 and H2O per mole of each is vastly different. Even though breaking a C-H bond is high energy (109 kcal/mol), forming C-O and H-O bonds (143 and 96 kcal/mol) cumulatively, releases much more energy. Acetone has way less energy yield per mole (molar equivalent) than octane. In the rank order of fuels, diesel would have way more energy yield than octane, and so on. On the other side of things, I think that acetone does have a higher potential to reaction with oxygen under pressure, hence leading to detonation under compression. I would like to think that science does not lie, but we could always have the Mythbusters test this one on a junk engine.
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Originally Posted by KSpencer
OK,
I must say that this is a disaster waiting to happen. Acetone is a fairly aggressive solvent which will usually swell if not eat most plastics (polyethylene, propylene, others...). I usually use the paint test, if it will eat the paint off of your vehicle, imagine what it is doing to other parts in the fuel system. If gasoline could eat the paint, then there would be alot of streaks on the sides of vehicles from the fuel door to the ground. As a chemist, this is actually impossible to gain more energy from burning acetone over octane. The formulas are C3H6O (acetone) vs. C8H18. The change in enthalpy of the reaction with oxygen (burning) to yield CO2 and H2O per mole of each is vastly different. Even though breaking a C-H bond is high energy (109 kcal/mol), forming C-O and H-O bonds (143 and 96 kcal/mol) cumulatively, releases much more energy. Acetone has way less energy yield per mole (molar equivalent) than octane. In the rank order of fuels, diesel would have way more energy yield than octane, and so on. On the other side of things, I think that acetone does have a higher potential to reaction with oxygen under pressure, hence leading to detonation under compression. I would like to think that science does not lie, but we could always have the Mythbusters test this one on a junk engine.
I must say that this is a disaster waiting to happen. Acetone is a fairly aggressive solvent which will usually swell if not eat most plastics (polyethylene, propylene, others...). I usually use the paint test, if it will eat the paint off of your vehicle, imagine what it is doing to other parts in the fuel system. If gasoline could eat the paint, then there would be alot of streaks on the sides of vehicles from the fuel door to the ground. As a chemist, this is actually impossible to gain more energy from burning acetone over octane. The formulas are C3H6O (acetone) vs. C8H18. The change in enthalpy of the reaction with oxygen (burning) to yield CO2 and H2O per mole of each is vastly different. Even though breaking a C-H bond is high energy (109 kcal/mol), forming C-O and H-O bonds (143 and 96 kcal/mol) cumulatively, releases much more energy. Acetone has way less energy yield per mole (molar equivalent) than octane. In the rank order of fuels, diesel would have way more energy yield than octane, and so on. On the other side of things, I think that acetone does have a higher potential to reaction with oxygen under pressure, hence leading to detonation under compression. I would like to think that science does not lie, but we could always have the Mythbusters test this one on a junk engine.