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Old May 24, 2007 | 02:32 AM
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Exclamation Best Place to buy an Edge???

I've got ~$500.00 burning a hole in my pocket and I'm yearning for an Edge. I've done some Google searches, a little eBay shopping and visited the sites sponsors.

I've coming up with a $400-450 range for the Edge.

Is this the best I can expect?

I've also seen the Livewire at $550, but I can't justify spending that much. I know that in the long run, a Livewire or X-Cal2 are a better buy, but I like the look of the Edge, and the guages are nice. Besides, I can't find a dash mount for the Livewire that I like yet.

I'd like to get the best price I can. Especially after I spent $95.00 today to fill my truck up ($3.45 a gallon for 87 octane).

thanks for the input in advance.



sorry if this is in the wrong forum. seems the best place to me right now
 
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Old May 24, 2007 | 02:36 AM
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Look in the classifieds, you may find a deal on a used one.
 
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Old May 24, 2007 | 02:37 AM
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didn't even think of that. I used Craiglist occasionally. I'll go look around. good call
 
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Old May 25, 2007 | 12:05 AM
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Got mine at WWW.TRUCKRACINGPARTS.COM for $320 shipped over a year ago.

Click on the Bonus coupon link on top of page.
 
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Old May 25, 2007 | 12:45 AM
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I paid about $300 a year ago from discountpowerparts.com
 
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Old May 25, 2007 | 12:54 AM
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thanks for the replies. after spending an hour or 2 more looking, I found out that the price for the Edge has been fixed since March. They strong armed people into selling them for $450 or more.

I'm going to keep looking and hope I get lucky.
 
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Old May 25, 2007 | 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Tylus
thanks for the replies. after spending an hour or 2 more looking, I found out that the price for the Edge has been fixed since March. They strong armed people into selling them for $450 or more.

I'm going to keep looking and hope I get lucky.
It's because they were bought out by the people who own superchips and a few other programming companies.
 
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Old May 25, 2007 | 07:30 AM
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for some reason that just doesn't sound right.

or is it just me?

a company bought up competition companies, put one big group name on it, and then decided that they can tell a 3rd party buyer what to sell the item for?

what i mean is that 90% of the programmers that you find are bought through warehouses or distributors. these warehouses and distributors in turn buy from edge. very rarely do you find where the seller buys directly from the manufacturer.

well what edge, msd, superchips, and racepack are doing is basically telling the the people who sell the programmers to the general public (like 4wheelonline and summitracing) what to sell it for.

kinda like you going to walmart, buying a toaster, and then you try to sell it because you don't want it, and the manufacturer of the toaster calls you and tells you you HAVE to sell it for a certain price.

I've been following this ever since it started up and it just doesn't sound right
 
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Old May 25, 2007 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by crash_lucky13
for some reason that just doesn't sound right.

or is it just me?

a company bought up competition companies, put one big group name on it, and then decided that they can tell a 3rd party buyer what to sell the item for?

what i mean is that 90% of the programmers that you find are bought through warehouses or distributors. these warehouses and distributors in turn buy from edge. very rarely do you find where the seller buys directly from the manufacturer.

well what edge, msd, superchips, and racepack are doing is basically telling the the people who sell the programmers to the general public (like 4wheelonline and summitracing) what to sell it for.

kinda like you going to walmart, buying a toaster, and then you try to sell it because you don't want it, and the manufacturer of the toaster calls you and tells you you HAVE to sell it for a certain price.

I've been following this ever since it started up and it just doesn't sound right
It may not sound right (to you), but it has, and always will be, the manufacturer's prerogative to set a Minimum Advertised Price (MAP) on it's products.

MSD/Edge is by far not the only company that does this > https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...1&postcount=25

1. Not a thing you, or anyone else, can do about it (but bitch).
2. If the MAP price is not appealing, buy used, or buy something else.
3. For that price, Tylus, just go get custom tuning - it's actually cheaper now.

Enough on MAP already - been bludgeoned to death already.

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Old May 25, 2007 | 09:24 AM
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I've got the Edge and love it, but if I had to pay more than the $318 or so I would go the Xcal-2 for sure. If Mike reads this I still want a Edge buy back program for the xcal-2
 
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Old May 25, 2007 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MGDfan
It may not sound right (to you), but it has, and always will be, the manufacturer's prerogative to set a Minimum Advertised Price (MAP) on it's products.
MGDfan is so right.

From a different industry perspective, most if not all higher end A/V gear manufactures stipulate that in order to "legally" sell their products, they have to meet the MAP, just as MGDfan said. That's why you will never see the likes of Wilson Audio, Thiel, Runco....sold over the internet. At least not "legally". Sure, if you search hard enough, you may indeed find some "grey" market products, but don't count on the manufactures warranty being honored.

Originally Posted by MGDfan
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Old May 25, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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aye, but those companies use MAP

MSD uses MRP

screwing around last night i found this
www.aapf.net

sure made me scratch my head

and on another note, everyone always uses BOSE as an example of a legal agreement. but BOSE sells directly to the retailer therefore enabling them to have that contract while MSD sells to a warehouse THEN they sell to a retailer. the agreement is between the warehouse and MSD, not the retailer and MSD

check out these definitions:
Collusion
Horizontal Price Fixing
Vertical Price Fixing
 

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Old May 25, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by crash_lucky13
aye, but those companies use MAP

MSD uses MRP

screwing around last night i found this
www.aapf.net

sure made me scratch my head

and on another note, everyone always uses BOSE as an example of a legal agreement. but BOSE sells directly to the retailer therefore enabling them to have that contract while MSD sells to a warehouse THEN they sell to a retailer. the agreement is between the warehouse and MSD, not the retailer and MSD

check out these definitions:
Collusion
Horizontal Price Fixing
Vertical Price Fixing
Hi.

Noted.

But if MSD used MRP, and one of it's subsidiaries (Edge) chose to use MAP, which would apply?

And ... does MSD indeed still use MRP? This posts refutes that > https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...7&postcount=23
 

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Old May 25, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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according to the faqs and the contract you have to sign
https://www.msdpmvp.com/(S(tep3ia55b...s45))/faq.aspx

it states
What is the new pricing policy?
The MVP pricing policy establishes minimum resale prices – the price a consumer actually pays – for MSD Ignition, Superchips, Edge Products and Racepak.

heres another head scratcher
What is MVP product pricing?
MVP pricing will be the same as map pricing. You can find a list of current MVP prices at My MVP page.

MAP pricing- Minimum advertised price
MRP pricing- Minimum resale price


funny it also says
Do I sign the pricing policy?
You sign up to be an authorized dealer. You do NOT sign our pricing policy – this is unilateral policy – meaning we announce it and you passively choose to accept it or not.
 
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