Anything new for '08?
Originally Posted by khendrix2374
The "powerblock" on spikeTV said Ford F150 will have a diesel in '08...
National Television... somthing like SpikeTV *shouldn't* be wrong.
4.4Liter is what they said.
National Television... somthing like SpikeTV *shouldn't* be wrong.
4.4Liter is what they said.
Did you ever see the Edge nitrous kit that they bolted on and raved about? Never made it to market.
Honestly, I don't see the diesel being available in '08. Going to be some serious a-holes and elbows flying somewhere to get it production ready by then I think.
I would really like a diesel, but I dont know. Can it be chiped enough to where it will at least beat the current 5.4 in HP? It will at least be a V8 right? I hate thinking about going down in litres, but cylinders? No way. I guess the powerstrokes are too big to fit in the F150? As you can probably tell, I dont know much about diesel, all I know is it sucks when you run out of gas, theres a chite load of oil in it, and, until recently, theyre loud. But I like the gas mileage, and the price is better sometimes. I pull a camp trailer every now and then, so the extra power would be better. We'll see.
Last edited by fordabbits; Apr 4, 2007 at 08:59 PM.
Hybrid F150 that gets 60mpg? I doubt it. I do however believe that a hybrid F150 is a possibility. I think 25mpg is a more realistic estimate. I might have to consider trading in for one of those in a couple of years...
Originally Posted by quackrstackr
Did you ever see the Edge nitrous kit that they bolted on and raved about? Never made it to market.
Honestly, I don't see the diesel being available in '08. Going to be some serious a-holes and elbows flying somewhere to get it production ready by then I think.
Honestly, I don't see the diesel being available in '08. Going to be some serious a-holes and elbows flying somewhere to get it production ready by then I think.
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My parents bought a Prius last week, so I did some research, and saw the hybrid Camry is good for less than 40 on the highway (40/38, advertised). I doubt Ford could get this pig up to 60 mpg. Toyota hasn't even gotten their little ugly jellybean (my parents' Prius) to do that yet.
Last edited by Nates06SCab; Apr 5, 2007 at 02:32 AM.
"Ford Invents Hybrid that is *300% more efficient* than Toyota Prius---
Ford is developing a new form of automotive propulsion, and the implications for the American Auto Industry are huge. The Hydraulic Hybrid could be the greatest innovation since the internal combustion engine itself, and Ford is on the inside track with its F-150 Hybrid. New Tech Spy Has learned details about the system that are simply amazing and could put Ford in a commanding position in the fiercely competitive full size pickup market.
---The Idea behind the current crop of Hybrid cars is well known; the cars main energy comes from gasoline which recharges batteries that move the car at low speeds. Hydraulic Hybrids work in the same manner, only instead of batteries, excess energy is stored in hydraulic cylinders.That in itself is not revolutionary, except for the fact that Nickel Metal Hydride batteries used today are not an efficient way to store energy, and hydraulic storage blows them away with 3X the efficiency. Even next generation Lithium Ion batteries do not come close to Hydraulic Energy Storage.
---The standard F-150 has a curb weight of about 4800 lbs., which is 65% greater than theToyota Prius, yet incredibly the Hydraulic F-150 with a continuously variable transmission matches the Prius with 60mpg city rating, that’s an amazing 400% increase over its gasoline version.
---The F-150 makes for a perfect host for Hydraulic Hybrid technology because of its height and body on frame construction, adding this system to smaller vehicles will be challenging, but with those kind of numbers small vehicles as we know them may become obsolete...The Hydraulic F-150 is currently scheduled for launch in August of 2008, can Ford work out all the bugs by then? The people are waiting for Ford to come through in the clutch"
I understand how the concept could become a reality, but not by 08.
the spy photos are showing a 7 lug wheel and a REGULAR regular cab. none of this quarter door bologna.
Ford is developing a new form of automotive propulsion, and the implications for the American Auto Industry are huge. The Hydraulic Hybrid could be the greatest innovation since the internal combustion engine itself, and Ford is on the inside track with its F-150 Hybrid. New Tech Spy Has learned details about the system that are simply amazing and could put Ford in a commanding position in the fiercely competitive full size pickup market.
---The Idea behind the current crop of Hybrid cars is well known; the cars main energy comes from gasoline which recharges batteries that move the car at low speeds. Hydraulic Hybrids work in the same manner, only instead of batteries, excess energy is stored in hydraulic cylinders.That in itself is not revolutionary, except for the fact that Nickel Metal Hydride batteries used today are not an efficient way to store energy, and hydraulic storage blows them away with 3X the efficiency. Even next generation Lithium Ion batteries do not come close to Hydraulic Energy Storage.
---The standard F-150 has a curb weight of about 4800 lbs., which is 65% greater than theToyota Prius, yet incredibly the Hydraulic F-150 with a continuously variable transmission matches the Prius with 60mpg city rating, that’s an amazing 400% increase over its gasoline version.
---The F-150 makes for a perfect host for Hydraulic Hybrid technology because of its height and body on frame construction, adding this system to smaller vehicles will be challenging, but with those kind of numbers small vehicles as we know them may become obsolete...The Hydraulic F-150 is currently scheduled for launch in August of 2008, can Ford work out all the bugs by then? The people are waiting for Ford to come through in the clutch"
I understand how the concept could become a reality, but not by 08.
the spy photos are showing a 7 lug wheel and a REGULAR regular cab. none of this quarter door bologna.
That same tech/spy story has been floating around for at least two years now.
If it were coming out anytime soon.... you better believe that everyone would know about it. It would turn the automotive market on it's ear because everybody would be scrambling to buy an F150 for 60 mpg.
Does anyone think that Ford would not play that ace up their sleeve given their current situation if it were on the immediate horizon?
If it were coming out anytime soon.... you better believe that everyone would know about it. It would turn the automotive market on it's ear because everybody would be scrambling to buy an F150 for 60 mpg.
Does anyone think that Ford would not play that ace up their sleeve given their current situation if it were on the immediate horizon?
Originally Posted by fordabbits
I would really like a diesel, but I dont know. Can it be chiped enough to where it will at least beat the current 5.4 in HP? It will at least be a V8 right? I hate thinking about going down in litres, but cylinders? No way. I guess the powerstrokes are too big to fit in the F150? As you can probably tell, I dont know much about diesel, all I know is it sucks when you run out of gas, theres a chite load of oil in it, and, until recently, theyre loud. But I like the gas mileage, and the price is better sometimes. I pull a camp trailer every now and then, so the extra power would be better. We'll see.
First of all if you are really worried about HP numbers, you probably shouldn't worry about a possible diesel F-150. Diesels are about TORQUE, lots of it. A 6 cylinder 4 liter turbo-diesel will out pull and generally out perform ANYTHING that the current 5.4 V-8 can do, as long as you are looking for a truck motor and not a sports car shaped like a truck we already have titans for that. Look at the numbers off the 6 liters deisel in the new super duties and think what kind of GAS motor can compete with that.
But your right we'll see. I couold go either way really. I don't need the power as much as I could use the mileage and a superduty is WAY more truck then I would use on any sort of regular basis.
Originally Posted by Dribone
"Ford Invents Hybrid that is *300% more efficient* than Toyota Prius---
Ford is developing a new form of automotive propulsion, and the implications for the American Auto Industry are huge. The Hydraulic Hybrid could be the greatest innovation since the internal combustion engine itself, and Ford is on the inside track with its F-150 Hybrid. New Tech Spy Has learned details about the system that are simply amazing and could put Ford in a commanding position in the fiercely competitive full size pickup market.
---The Idea behind the current crop of Hybrid cars is well known; the cars main energy comes from gasoline which recharges batteries that move the car at low speeds. Hydraulic Hybrids work in the same manner, only instead of batteries, excess energy is stored in hydraulic cylinders.That in itself is not revolutionary, except for the fact that Nickel Metal Hydride batteries used today are not an efficient way to store energy, and hydraulic storage blows them away with 3X the efficiency. Even next generation Lithium Ion batteries do not come close to Hydraulic Energy Storage.
---The standard F-150 has a curb weight of about 4800 lbs., which is 65% greater than theToyota Prius, yet incredibly the Hydraulic F-150 with a continuously variable transmission matches the Prius with 60mpg city rating, that’s an amazing 400% increase over its gasoline version.
---The F-150 makes for a perfect host for Hydraulic Hybrid technology because of its height and body on frame construction, adding this system to smaller vehicles will be challenging, but with those kind of numbers small vehicles as we know them may become obsolete...The Hydraulic F-150 is currently scheduled for launch in August of 2008, can Ford work out all the bugs by then? The people are waiting for Ford to come through in the clutch"
I understand how the concept could become a reality, but not by 08.
the spy photos are showing a 7 lug wheel and a REGULAR regular cab. none of this quarter door bologna.
Ford is developing a new form of automotive propulsion, and the implications for the American Auto Industry are huge. The Hydraulic Hybrid could be the greatest innovation since the internal combustion engine itself, and Ford is on the inside track with its F-150 Hybrid. New Tech Spy Has learned details about the system that are simply amazing and could put Ford in a commanding position in the fiercely competitive full size pickup market.
---The Idea behind the current crop of Hybrid cars is well known; the cars main energy comes from gasoline which recharges batteries that move the car at low speeds. Hydraulic Hybrids work in the same manner, only instead of batteries, excess energy is stored in hydraulic cylinders.That in itself is not revolutionary, except for the fact that Nickel Metal Hydride batteries used today are not an efficient way to store energy, and hydraulic storage blows them away with 3X the efficiency. Even next generation Lithium Ion batteries do not come close to Hydraulic Energy Storage.
---The standard F-150 has a curb weight of about 4800 lbs., which is 65% greater than theToyota Prius, yet incredibly the Hydraulic F-150 with a continuously variable transmission matches the Prius with 60mpg city rating, that’s an amazing 400% increase over its gasoline version.
---The F-150 makes for a perfect host for Hydraulic Hybrid technology because of its height and body on frame construction, adding this system to smaller vehicles will be challenging, but with those kind of numbers small vehicles as we know them may become obsolete...The Hydraulic F-150 is currently scheduled for launch in August of 2008, can Ford work out all the bugs by then? The people are waiting for Ford to come through in the clutch"
I understand how the concept could become a reality, but not by 08.
the spy photos are showing a 7 lug wheel and a REGULAR regular cab. none of this quarter door bologna.
I've read numerous detailed articles concerning Ford developing the hydraulic power. It *seems* to be very real. As of now, the main limitation is that the equipment is large and needs a large truck to be fitted. I also read that UPS is currently testing one, or a few of these systems on their trucks in conjunction with Ford. Not sure how legit that part is...
But, in a nutshell, it's potentially VERY real...it's technology that already exists and is used on roller coasters; they just need to shrink it down. As for the other pros aside from the INSANE MPG? It should provide a Godly amount of torque as well.
But, in a nutshell, it's potentially VERY real...it's technology that already exists and is used on roller coasters; they just need to shrink it down. As for the other pros aside from the INSANE MPG? It should provide a Godly amount of torque as well.


