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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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woops forgot to ask this also in my last post....does tips have any bearing on sound? a buddy of mine told me the tips that have the ends kind of rolled are better sounding. any truth to this?
Yes tips do make a differance in the sound. I just put a SS 4"X12" tip with 15deg slash cut on my truck and it did change both the volume of the exhaust and the tone. I had a couple of buddies over when I was putting the tip on and all of them said that it was louder with the tip than without, then my next door neighbor said the same. He came over to ask what I did to the truck now because he said it had gottne noticeably (sp?) louder in the last week, all that I did was put the tip on. I personally don't think that it got much louder, I think that the tone just changed so it is heard more now.

As for rolled tips, I personally like the looks of them, but not the sound. I have heard a couple of trucks around here that sound like ____ with the rolled tips, maybe it is just the brand of tips that the exhaust shop here uses but they sound more muffled than others. One of my buddies cut the rolled edge off his tips and it was a night and day differance in the sound quality.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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how much did most of you guys pay for your true duel systems???
 
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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 10:36 PM
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$50 , my friend owns a muffler shop. But shoudn't be over $250

 
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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 10:53 PM
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how much did most of you guys pay for your true duel systems???
To get an exhaust system done around here it is expensive and I don't know why. For true duals 2.25"pipe, X pipe, 2 IMCO Pro mufflers and SS tips I was quoted $550. For a SI/DO with SS tips they want 475, 400 without tips. And for a SI/SO I paid $220 without a tip, would have been about 265 with a SS tip. And these prices are from one of the cheap shops around here, but also the best IMO.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Super FX4
how much did most of you guys pay for your true duel systems???
I paid $300 but most shops around here charge around $400-500 for the same system.

True duals with Original Flowmasters and 3.5" stainless rolled edge tips.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 01:54 AM
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Grubrunner, so basically I would want a X-pipe instead of an H-pipe My truck already has a very low rumble sound which I love but wouldn't mind it sounding a little lower I don’t like the raspy sounding exhaust which is why I went with straight pipe
I think you misread my post, but you're correct with the conclusion.

I had a straight through [no cambered muffler] design with already a nice, deep, throaty sound and went the X-Pipe design. I was a little worried that the X-Pipe would [re] produce the "raspy" or "clattery" sounding exhaust note - as it's notorious for - but my guy assured me that with an already deep throaty sounding note, it would hardly be noticeable. It wasn't and sounded awesome!

He taught me to not worry about the "raspy" sound an X-Pipe often produces, if you already have the "throaty" deep tune. He said the concern is elevated significantly when you already have a "raspy" sounding exhaust note and add a X-Pipe. Not a good combination.

On top of this - as I mentioned in the post above - the X-Pipe is all about horsepower and is often recommended with a straight through muffler/exhaust design.

An X-Pipe is the cross-over pipe I, myself, would use under your conditions.

Let me also add that, based on the last sentence of your post I've quoted, a straight through muffler design does NOT always give you the "throaty" and/or "muscle-car" sound people often assume. Also, on the flip side, a cambered muffler design does NOT always give you the "raspy" sound people often assume. Often and in general, yes, but not always.

Good luck and post your feedback if/when you get it.

Originally Posted by armt-dawg
woops forgot to ask this also in my last post....does tips have any bearing on sound? a buddy of mine told me the tips that have the ends kind of rolled are better sounding. any truth to this?
During my ealier mentioned research, many reputable and in-the-know people had told me that exhaust tips make no difference to the sound output [volume], tone or to the performance of a vehicle.

Just as many of those types of people told me that it makes a very slight difference to the sound [inaudible] but more of a difference to the exhaust note.

and then there were the very few who told me the only difference tips made was to the "flow" of the exhaust fumes and not much else.

They all did mention one thing though: rolled tips were the best when all's said and done.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 12:38 AM
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Did any of you guys with a 4x4 have a problem installing an x pipe with the t-case being there and everything?
 
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Grubrunner
I think you misread my post, but you're correct with the conclusion.

I had a straight through [no cambered muffler] design with already a nice, deep, throaty sound and went the X-Pipe design. I was a little worried that the X-Pipe would [re] produce the "raspy" or "clattery" sounding exhaust note - as it's notorious for - but my guy assured me that with an already deep throaty sounding note, it would hardly be noticeable. It wasn't and sounded awesome!

He taught me to not worry about the "raspy" sound an X-Pipe often produces, if you already have the "throaty" deep tune. He said the concern is elevated significantly when you already have a "raspy" sounding exhaust note and add a X-Pipe. Not a good combination.

On top of this - as I mentioned in the post above - the X-Pipe is all about horsepower and is often recommended with a straight through muffler/exhaust design.

An X-Pipe is the cross-over pipe I, myself, would use under your conditions.

Let me also add that, based on the last sentence of your post I've quoted, a straight through muffler design does NOT always give you the "throaty" and/or "muscle-car" sound people often assume. Also, on the flip side, a cambered muffler design does NOT always give you the "raspy" sound people often assume. Often and in general, yes, but not always.

Good luck and post your feedback if/when you get it.
Im gonna look into getting an X-Pipe installed when I get my truck back form the dealership, Ill post sound clips before and after
 
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 01:28 AM
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Just FYI when i had the squared magnaflow tips my exhaust was VERY raspy. I had one guy swear I had an exhaust leak. After removing the tip the sound was considerably smoother and maybe a little deeper.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 08:45 PM
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 01:51 AM
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1. tips have a huge effect on the sound of your exhaust. my 3.5" tips make a night and day difference. look at the fart cans people put on their rice cars.

2. unless you are seriously modifying your motor, get the H pipe. You won't see enough gain from an X pipe to justify the way it will affect your sound. The H will make your exhaust sound meaner, throatier. My Mustang will see the benifits of an X pipe, but the 5.4 needs alot of work before the X pipe is truly useful.

3. I got quoted $400+ just for a muffler and piping to create a Y pipe dual exhust. So I went and got the Magnaflow SIDO. I'd like to later on split the exhaust out like it is in my GT, but I'm happy with the performance right now.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 01:07 PM
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I put true duals and an 'H' pipe on my '04 F-150 more than a year ago. I'm an old 60's muscle car freak, so I went with the 'H' pipe. The 'H' pipe is more for the balance of expelling the exhaust gases than enything else. I haven't went to a dyno or anything, but I really haven't noticed a loss of anything. My gas mileage slightly improved. I went with the "Slowmasters" and a 15 degree slanted Magnaflow tip. Adding the tips made a significant difference in the tone. I didn't really care for the sound until I added these.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Super FX4
how much did most of you guys pay for your true duel systems???
I have true duals with 12" glass packs on my 06 and I love it!! I paid $350 for everything installed and 3" stainless steel tips.
 
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