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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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05RoushMarkLT: How is your transmission holding up to that power and what did Whipple do for your fuel system? Did they change the size of the injectors or add a boost a pump or change the size of the lines? It would be pretty amazing if our stock pump lines and injectors could feed that much rwhp!

Do you let your truck shift WOT? If not, that could be why your trans is still holding up if its still stock.. great setup for a pickup in my opinion.
The tranny is holding up fine, but I haven't gone WOT yet with the new gears. It is still too slick outside to get any traction. I've gone close to WOT in 4wd a few times and got traction and it sat me back in the seat more than it ever had before though.

I have hammered on the truck pretty hard though, going through the gears with my foot to the floor. My time is probably coming soon though, and I plan to start looking into the monstor box tranny in case this one goes out on me.

The only fuel system upgrades were moving to the larger injectors. Everything else is still stock, including the pump and lines.

I saw what a whipple could do on a cobra in Fresno, they had one there. Simply impressive. I can't wait till their 3.3L comes out, and I plan to have them do up a new style mustang for me.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 05RoushMarkLT
The tranny is holding up fine, but I haven't gone WOT yet with the new gears. It is still too slick outside to get any traction. I've gone close to WOT in 4wd a few times and got traction and it sat me back in the seat more than it ever had before though.

I have hammered on the truck pretty hard though, going through the gears with my foot to the floor. My time is probably coming soon though, and I plan to start looking into the monstor box tranny in case this one goes out on me.

The only fuel system upgrades were moving to the larger injectors. Everything else is still stock, including the pump and lines.

I saw what a whipple could do on a cobra in Fresno, they had one there. Simply impressive. I can't wait till their 3.3L comes out, and I plan to have them do up a new style mustang for me.


SO you think the tranny wounld hold up, do you think i will run in to tranny issues running a base wipple kit?
 
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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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sorry for the hijack but zachespo whered you get that cowl hood?
I got from the classifieds on this board. But there is a site that sells them. I have a thread about some where.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 06:50 PM
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SO you think the tranny wounld hold up, do you think i will run in to tranny issues running a base wipple kit?
You definately won't be doing your tranny any justice by adding a supercharger. I think you'll be fine, especially with just a stock kit, as I haven't seen any supercharged F150's with tranny issues yet.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 05RoushMarkLT
You definately won't be doing your tranny any justice by adding a supercharger. I think you'll be fine, especially with just a stock kit, as I haven't seen any supercharged F150's with tranny issues yet.

so more then likely im going to run into some sort of issue then with the tranny??? what about the motor it self?
 
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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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You definately won't be doing your tranny any justice by adding a supercharger. I think you'll be fine, especially with just a stock kit, as I haven't seen any supercharged F150's with tranny issues yet.
Are you running an aftermarket valve body?
 
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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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You up your chances to do damage to the motor and to the tranny with a supercharger, which is the reason the dealerships won't warranty those parts any longer if you have one installed. Some company's like Roush will pick up the warranty as an incentive for you to buy their blower, but there are several stipulations that come with it, such as caps on how much they will fork out to repair damaged parts, and processing times that could keep you from getting the repair bill paid for several weeks.

This is not to say you will destroy your truck by installing these, but this is where the old saying, "you have to pay to play" comes into context. People have driven around their supercharged trucks for tens of thousands of miles without problems.

Jordan, I'm on the stock valve bodies.

Jerry, I'm not sure how many degrees of timing the stock tune came with, or where I'm at now.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 10:21 PM
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Are you running an aftermarket valve body?
These guys are upping HP 50-75%. Changing the valve body is a 5% solution to a much bigger issue IMO. The bands, clutches, input shafts, torque convertor, cooling capacity etc of that tranny are meant to handle stock levels and I don't know of many folks pushing them to the limits so I'm real curious to see how over-engineered they are. In my limiited experience with this tranny its weak but I'm only one case..
 
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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 05RoushMarkLT
You up your chances to do damage to the motor and to the tranny with a supercharger, which is the reason the dealerships won't warranty those parts any longer if you have one installed. Some company's like Roush will pick up the warranty as an incentive for you to buy their blower, but there are several stipulations that come with it, such as caps on how much they will fork out to repair damaged parts, and processing times that could keep you from getting the repair bill paid for several weeks.

This is not to say you will destroy your truck by installing these, but this is where the old saying, "you have to pay to play" comes into context. People have driven around their supercharged trucks for tens of thousands of miles without problems.

Jordan, I'm on the stock valve bodies.

Jerry, I'm not sure how many degrees of timing the stock tune came with, or where I'm at now.

im starting to think im may want to go with a more conservative kit on making power! i still need my daily driver
 
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 02:30 AM
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Whats the difference between the magnacharger kits offered by:
-Steeda
-Powerworks
-Magnacharger them selves
 
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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Got links? If they all are based around the Eaton 112 then its essentially in the packaging: what injectors/tuners/intake piping/pulleys/tunes do they offer.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JerryK
These guys are upping HP 50-75%. Changing the valve body is a 5% solution to a much bigger issue IMO. The bands, clutches, input shafts, torque convertor, cooling capacity etc of that tranny are meant to handle stock levels and I don't know of many folks pushing them to the limits so I'm real curious to see how over-engineered they are. In my limited experience with this tranny its weak but I'm only one case..
Almost everyone will recommend an aftermarket valve body. You'd be surprised at how it increases tranny longevity beyond "5%". Here's a good read (scroll down):
http://www.factorytechtransmissions....WPROD&ProdID=7
And many of us have aux trans coolers in addition to the factory one.

There are a lot of us with supercharged motors and we are all pushing the limits. Some guys have already ballooned their TCs.

I've got a Procharger pushing 410 lb-ft of torque to the wheels. I have an additional cooler as well as an Art Carr valve body (thought I'd get a Factory Tech if I could do it over again). My E4OD has gone 135K miles, and I tow a 7,000-lb. boat thru the desert. Still going strong after 10 years

Many folks with tranny troubles race their trucks at the track. A lot of us street guys have had no trouble, but that's not to say that there haven't been any failures for non-raced trucks.

A lot of this has been covered on older posts.
 

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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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Jordan not Mike, Finally someone with some "sense" around here. High five to the Valve Body Mods. With the 4R75W/E all you need is the modified seperator plate ($80) or you can do it yourself with custom sized orfices. And for the trans cooler... another thing people do not understand is that there is a block that regulates flow off the tranny to the cooler(s). It pretty much is a springed thermostat, at 180*F it is fully opened.

But hey its "your" truck, let your tranny suffer.

And just because i don't have any credibilty to base anything on (like a shop) doesnt mean i dont know what i am talking about.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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Almost everyone will recommend an aftermarket valve body. You'd be surprised at how it increases tranny longevity beyond "5%". Here's a good read (scroll down):
http://www.factorytechtransmissions....WPROD&ProdID=7
And many of us have aux trans coolers in addition to the factory one.

There are a lot of us with supercharged motors and we are all pushing the limits. Some guys have already ballooned their TCs.

I've got a Procharger pushing 410 lb-ft of torque to the wheels. I have an additional cooler as well as an Art Carr valve body (thought I'd get a Factory Tech if I could do it over again). My E4OD has gone 135K miles, and I tow a 7,000-lb. boat thru the desert. Still going strong after 10 years

Many folks with tranny troubles race their trucks at the track. A lot of us street guys have had no trouble, but that's not to say that there haven't been any failures for non-raced trucks.

A lot of this has been covered on older posts.
Can you stick to one topic please: your current truck or your old truck, take your pick. For the purpose of this thread how about your current truck since we don't care about your old truck. Current F150's you say are already ballooning torque convertors.. but they are raced, but some street trucks also baloon troque convertors.. so in hard driving on the street or on the track we're finding the first weak link: torque convertor. You and I may KNOW the tranny is at the edge and never rag the car on a hot day and may lift the throttle near redline so that next shift isn't so hard whereas the next guy won't. THAT's the point, there's a lot of folks who read these threads who open with questions like "will I have a warranty".. well to the unitiatiated who don't fully understand the mantra you gotta pay to play you do them a disservice by saying "do a valvebody" and your done... You can do a valvebody, an aux cooler, and drive it nice, but pull a boat on a hot day and have a shift flare on a long uphill pull when your not paying attention and that puppys probably toast.. its THAT close the edge when you add 50%+ more power, I'm trying to not mislead people into thinking there is so much reserve in the tranny that it can take that extra power without being gone through top to bottom, its a system. You can do things to help.. 5% solutions to a much bigger SYSTEM issue.. a SYSTEM being something you can beat on in 10 degree or 100 degree whether just like OEM.. not something that is marginalized depending on the payload, temp or grade which is what we are now talking about, that's reality.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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Can you stick to one topic please: your current truck or your old truck, take your pick. For the purpose of this thread how about your current truck since we don't care about your old truck. well to the unitiatiated who don't fully understand the mantra you gotta pay to play you do them a disservice by saying "do a valvebody" and your done... You can do a valvebody, an aux cooler, and drive it nice, but pull a boat on a hot day and have a shift flare on a long uphill pull when your not paying attention and that puppys probably toast.. its THAT close the edge when you add 50%+ more power, I'm trying to not mislead people
Please don't tell me what to post and what not to post.
I'll respect your posts, please do the same for mine.

I'm not trying to argue with you bro.
I asked someone else a question, and you responded to me.

A VB will help with longevity. It won't work miracles.
An aux cooler will help with longevity. It won't work miracles either.
You'll find that a lot of blown guys put a VB or separator plate in...for a reason. Same with an aux cooler.

If I somehow implied that they would do otherwise, then it's my bad and certainly wasn't my intention. But re-reading my post, I don't see it.

BTW I don't drive nice.
I pull 3.5 tons through 115-degree desert heat.
I drive hard on the street but don't track my truck.
Never had a shift flare...but 10 years and still going strong on an E4OD.

I thought the point was to share experiences with a supercharged truck.
How reliable has your supercharged setup been? Some of us have a bit of firsthand experience to share.

BTW check out the NLOC forums as well.
Many, many guys are making reliable power with a stock tranny and just a few mods like a VB.
 
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