It's a 2 Wheel drive, and actually guess i should clarify, I walked out (aka did not purchase it last night), I have an appt. to go back tomorrow to have them take a look at my trade (problematic 2004 F-150).
It seemed to me that alot of people in this forum got better deals, but perhaps i was mistaken.

 

I don't think he mentioned 4x4.

 

Yeah, I completely agree with you that the current pricing/selling "strategy" IS what's wrong with the automotive market. Unfortunately, it's going to take a major about-face turn on the part of the manufacturers to correct the situation. In the meantime, we (as consumers) have to do what we have to do to get the best deal. If that means taking advantage of the insolvent mess that they've created, then so be it!

Peace

 

I agree 100%. If I was a worker at Circuit City, and someone came in and tried to buy a TV from the that listed at $2995 and they DEMANDED that they get it for $1500 out the door, I would laugh at them and walk away. It is because foreign manufacturers believe in the quality of their product, and aren't ashamed to ask for MSRP. And guess what, 50% of import buyers will pay it too. The other 50% just wanna feel like they have gotten a decent deal in which the dealer hasn't made tons of profit on them (the customer).

It's exactly opposite for the domestic manufacturers. They think "Oh man, our product is only going to be worth 2/3rds of its original value in 6 months, and our customers know that! Time for a huge rebate! BUY BUY BUY!"

When I was employed at a Ford store, EVERY single deal that went down had MINIMUM $4000 discount in it, before rebates. Frankly, I got tired of a customer coming in, and telling me how much money I would make because they're too chicken-**** to pay sticker, or maybe even get a "decent deal." They were more interested in taking us to the cleaners. Frankly, as a salesperson, I got tired of it. This is now why I work for an import dealer, and drive imports. I want nothing to do with the jackassery that is a Ford dealer. You can't make ANYTHING unless you're in finance, upper management, etc....

 

Yep, thats pretty much the same truck im looking at. Same dealer too!

 

I was so close to trading in my truck on Monday. Did my 15k service and saw a 2007 (Dark Pearl Blue) 4x4 and my wife fell in love with it and said I should try to get it (I love my wife ). Well I started talking with the salesman and the sticker was $36,950, he said right off the bat he could get it down to $30k, but no lower. I said well ok I have a 2006 XLT SCREW that I have owned for 11 months. That's where the deal fell through because he said I'd be upsaide down about $10k.

The truck was nice, but certainly not worth taking a $10k bath on mine.

 

I have had nothing but problems with my current truck, front rotors, rebuilt diff. replaced tail lights, new throttlebody, the leaf springs currently creak something fierce, and now a "thumping noise" has risen its ulgy head, Service dept told me it sounds like the rear end (again), but now im out of warranty.
I was also told that the trucks that were built within the first 3 months (july, aug, sept 2003) are the ones that have these problems. So based on the troubles with my truck, Im ready to start over. Least i went back to Ford.

 

Agreed 100%. There is no way I am not taking advantage of the auto makers stupidity. It is THE problem. If they refuse to correct it, we should all take advantage of it.

KC-10 FE out...

 

I think ford is taking people to the cleaners with the mustangs and GT500's. in some cases 20k over sticker. people want a cheap truck for a cheap price.

 

They are working on correcting it...it just takes time. They are lowering sticker prices, but raising invoice prices. Rebates have also come down some. This brings selling price closer to the actual MSRP to give the consumer the feeling that the vehicle is not over priced to begin with.

I bought my '05 XLT Supercrew on 12/31 for nearly 33% off MSRP. Stickered for ~$36k and I paid ~$24k. There were several factors:
1) 5k in rebates due to leftover '05
2) Ford was pushing to sell 900k trucks in '05 so had a special deal going with the dealers. My dealer returned some of that to me.
3) I was working with 2 dealers on 2 different trucks. They both wanted my business so they were cutting me some pretty sweet deals.

Good luck on your decision. Personally, I think you should get about another $1k off. You should be able to negotiate invoice (or a little less) minus rebates. This is actually a pretty good deal for both sides.

By the way, X plan is typically a little above invoice. At least it has been in the past. Not sure with the new pricing structures though.

 

There are two types of people that do not buy:

Poor people (ie. no credit [think they have good credit], not enough income)
&
Stupid people (people who think they are not getting a deal)


If you ARE NOT one of those i think you would be smart and buy the vehicle. I have no problem writing a $450 check to ford credit for my truck each month. I don't because i am happy and i do not look back thinking i left money on the table. So it comes down to, can you afford it? If not, you shouldnt be looking at one.

Also the dealer is there for you to buy them, not give them away.

 

It doesn't hurt to try though. I was able to get $250 off of a furniture purchase of $1650 yesterday. All I had to do was ask.

 

Someone has already posted a print screen of the x-plan price but you can also go to fordvehicles.com and browse dealer inventory. Click on one of the vehicles and you will be able to see the invoice price. I would start negotiating at the invoice price if you don't get an X-plan pin.

 

If you want Fords Friends and family price, there was a guy on Craigslist out of Detroit that was giving it to anyone who will buy a FORD! I will look for the Link and post it in a minute..

 

Here it is, It's X plan pricing...

sale-267988101@craigslist.org

Free to anyone buying a Ford, Mercury, or Lincoln product. This is called "X-Plan" pricing. Just ask your dealer for an x-plan price when you look at a new vehicle and get ahold of me and get a pin number for that price plan. I have and can get unlimited discounts so don't think you are too late to take advantage of this offer. Good luck to all and as always, buy AMERICAN!