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Some insurance companies have looked at not paying out for vehicles that are left running. I know here in NEwport News we enforce a city code and fine drivers who leave their vehicles running. The only problem is the code is only enforceable on city streets.
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Originally Posted by cliff2026
Some insurance companies have looked at not paying out for vehicles that are left running. I know here in NEwport News we enforce a city code and fine drivers who leave their vehicles running. The only problem is the code is only enforceable on city streets.
where did he buy it? Goodfellas Chevrolet
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From: Albuquerque
Originally Posted by CrAz3D
SOB!!!
I just saw that you're from Albuquerque! I'm in Las Cruces
. How're you enjoyin all that snow? 
I just keep hearing bad things about Albuquerque's crime.
And yeah, I can totally see your truck ending up in Mexico if you didn't find it. My dad has his Chevy and when it was new there were a good number of problems with it. One of his workers offered for it to "disappear." I'm just surprised we don't have as much crime down here being even closer to Mexico.
I just saw that you're from Albuquerque! I'm in Las Cruces
. How're you enjoyin all that snow? I just keep hearing bad things about Albuquerque's crime.
And yeah, I can totally see your truck ending up in Mexico if you didn't find it. My dad has his Chevy and when it was new there were a good number of problems with it. One of his workers offered for it to "disappear." I'm just surprised we don't have as much crime down here being even closer to Mexico.
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From: Albuquerque
Originally Posted by 04 RED LARIAT
I would never ever want my vehicle back after a total stranger drove it. They better burn mine after they steal it, because if they don't I will.
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From: Albuquerque
Originally Posted by Guigster
Put a piece of Scotch Tape over the key holes. That'll keep 'em out. Nobody can penetrate that.
The dealer told me over the phone that all the locks including the ignition can be replaced for around $350. He said that the ignition can be reprogrammed to make the old keys useless for about $30, and that new keys are about $90 apiece. I'm surprised if it really is that cheap to reprogram the ignition. That seems like the way to go.
My insurance company has offered to pay for the towing charges, and the adjuster just told me that after I itemize the loss of personal things inside the truck that were taken, they may reimburse me for at least part of those, too. I may just include all expenses, such as the new license plate and registration paperwork, keys, locks, programming, etc, and see how they react. If they pay anything at all, that will not only surprise me, but delight me. And I will stay with this company forever. Not making excuses for thieves, but this truly was my own boneheadedness that enabled them to hit me so easily. If I'd simply locked the doors after starting it, this wouldn't have happened.
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
Dang! I have a couple of friends headed up to UNM for music stuff this week, maybe I should go visit them and play.
There are some pretty jacked up people in this world. New Years day, pfft.
Isn't the area you're in a rather nice place to be, like off of Tramway or am I way off?
There are some pretty jacked up people in this world. New Years day, pfft.
Isn't the area you're in a rather nice place to be, like off of Tramway or am I way off?
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From: Albuquerque
Originally Posted by Patman03SprCrw
Tell them (insurance) you need to get louder exaust too, that way if it happens again, you can hear them drive off. 
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From: Under the flightpath of old ORD 22R
Originally Posted by allweather
Huh?
The dealer told me over the phone that all the locks including the ignition can be replaced for around $350. He said that the ignition can be reprogrammed to make the old keys useless for about $30, and that new keys are about $90 apiece. I'm surprised if it really is that cheap to reprogram the ignition. That seems like the way to go....<snip>...
The dealer told me over the phone that all the locks including the ignition can be replaced for around $350. He said that the ignition can be reprogrammed to make the old keys useless for about $30, and that new keys are about $90 apiece. I'm surprised if it really is that cheap to reprogram the ignition. That seems like the way to go....<snip>...
To replace the Ign with new keys, the dealer needs to take the NGS, and erase all the keys in the HEC anyways, and then program a min of 2 new keys ( new cylinder ) by the programmign isntructions. that is 210.00 for about 15 min of work, plus the labor to install the new cylinder in the steering column and the doors ??
So he is charging you $30.00 to do the programming he is already doing.
This is similar to what they are using :
http://www.hickok-inc.com/ngs/ngslock.html
The new programmer from Ford is called the PDS or your dealer might not have upgraded yet, and still be using the WDS 418-F224 or NGS 418-F052 or equivalent scan tool
Section from the Service Manual ( SECTION 419-01: Anti-Theft — PATS )
This procedure will erase all programmed ignition keys from the vehicle memory and the vehicle will not start until two keys have been reprogrammed to the vehicle.
NOTE: Two PATS encoded keys with the correct mechanical cut must be available to perform this procedure. One or both of them may be the customer's original keys.
NOTE: If additional keys are to be programmed, refer to Key Programming — Program a Key Using Two Programmed Keys. If the remaining keys are with the customer and are not available with the vehicle, then instruct the customer to refer to the Owners Guide under the "Programming Spare [SecuriLock ® (North America), Safeguard ® (U.K.) or PATS for all other markets] Keys Procedure" for instructions on programming the remaining keys.
1.Turn the ignition switch from OFF to RUN.
2.Enter scan tool. Follow the SECURITY ACCESS PROCEDURE to obtain security access.
3.From scan tool menu, select IGNITION KEY CODE ERASE.
4.NOTE: Do NOT select any additional commands from this menu. Turn the ignition switch to OFF and disconnect scan tool.
5.Insert the first encoded key into the ignition lock cylinder and turn the switch to RUN for three seconds.
6.Insert the second encoded key into the ignition lock cylinder and turn the switch to RUN for three seconds.
7.The vehicle should now start with both ignition keys.
NOTE: Two PATS encoded keys with the correct mechanical cut must be available to perform this procedure. One or both of them may be the customer's original keys.
NOTE: If additional keys are to be programmed, refer to Key Programming — Program a Key Using Two Programmed Keys. If the remaining keys are with the customer and are not available with the vehicle, then instruct the customer to refer to the Owners Guide under the "Programming Spare [SecuriLock ® (North America), Safeguard ® (U.K.) or PATS for all other markets] Keys Procedure" for instructions on programming the remaining keys.
1.Turn the ignition switch from OFF to RUN.
2.Enter scan tool. Follow the SECURITY ACCESS PROCEDURE to obtain security access.
3.From scan tool menu, select IGNITION KEY CODE ERASE.
4.NOTE: Do NOT select any additional commands from this menu. Turn the ignition switch to OFF and disconnect scan tool.
5.Insert the first encoded key into the ignition lock cylinder and turn the switch to RUN for three seconds.
6.Insert the second encoded key into the ignition lock cylinder and turn the switch to RUN for three seconds.
7.The vehicle should now start with both ignition keys.
