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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 12:43 AM
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Thumbs up counterAct ~ improving

ok, got the counterAct beads installed... before installation we pulled off all the weights and checked each tire out to see if there was a major tire imperfection and NOPE, as we thought, the worst one only called for 3.75oz.

With that out of the way we popped a bead loose, threw in 7oz of counterAct in each tire, bolted up and hit the road .

1st 10 miles i was not impressed at all, in fact I was ready to go back and have them put the weights back on then
25 miles started to smooth out, less nibble...
300 miles and the nibble is gradually decreasing to an acute annoyance only recognized if I let go of the wheel for a sec "to see"
375 still not perfect, but a major improvement, "would never shake ashes off a ciggy thats for sure" Just the weight of my outstretched arm makes the wheel quit nibbling.


Going to have the front end re-aligned next week to cover all the bases.

So far this is a very easy and economical "band-aid" for now, I got mine 4 free. The most Im out is an hour helping take my tires off/on.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Impact9
Sorry Air Force had me busy all week. Air show this past weekend plus a exercise this week. I got the night off so I'll be doing them when the sun comes back up and the skeeters go to bed.
Thanks for the update, I took care of my problem. I traded my after market rims and tires for a set of factory rims with tires. No more shakes at all took it up to 90 on the interstate and the steering wheel was perfectly smooth. I figured that after at least 10+ trips to various tire shops for balancing including road force it wasn't worth it anymore. I'm just relieved that it wasn't something with my truck itself.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 05:29 AM
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It may be caused by increase track width. Having after market wheels that have a lower offset than the factory wheels can cause this nibble. I think the offset for factory wheels are +44. Also, a lift kit that increases front track width can cause this. When I bought my truck I had no nibble. Later, I bought my Helo's with a +10 offset, but I kept my factory tires. This meant that the track width(distance between the inside of the tires)was increased because I kept stock tires which were 10.7" wide. Increasing the track width about 2.6" more than stock. I experienced the nibble during this time. After waiting 6 months for backorder, I finally bought my Toyo M/T's which are 12.5" wide. Because they are wider, they decreased the track width to .8" more than stock width and the NIBBLE WAS GONE. Now if someone has a 0 offset and a lift w/ increased track width, the front track width is going to be increase alot more than 2.6". So, I would measure the track width before any tire or lift is installed. Then, make sure your wheel/tire/lift setup matches or comes within an inch. Otherwise, you'll probably need some steering stablizers. So, find a stock truck with the same factory tire/wheel combo your truck originally came with and measure the front track width and compare it to yours. If yours is more than an inch wider, it might be the cause for the nibble. If you have nibble and your truck is stock, then I don't know what it could be. Hope this helps some.
 

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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 12:08 PM
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the worst one only called for 3.75oz.
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That's a lot of weight. I would have rotated that tire on the rim 180 degree's..

 
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 01:38 AM
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That's a lot of weight. I would have rotated that tire on the rim 180 degree's..

did it... then called for 3.5oz.. ya, we were stumped too...

*by the way, my wheels are stock as many are that have the nibble, had the nibble with the stock tires and now with the BFG's too. But it is getting better after putting in the CounterAct.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 04:13 AM
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After adding the little ***** to my tires as in my above post I found that this does drastically reduce the nibble. It's still there but very close to being perfect. Gotta say i'm still surprise that these things actually did reduce the problem.

I'll post my results if I notice anything different.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 10:08 AM
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.... I'm just relieved that it wasn't something with my truck itself.
I hope you knocked on wood when you said that.
Personally , I think that the smaller stockers dont exaggerate the underlying problem which still exists somewhere. IMHO , who knows.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Impact9
After adding the little ***** to my tires as in my above post I found that this does drastically reduce the nibble. It's still there but very close to being perfect. Gotta say i'm still surprise that these things actually did reduce the problem.

I'll post my results if I notice anything different.
Have you noticed any other improvements like ride quality, less vibration in the floor, less noise, that sort of thing?

Did the CounterAct instructions require the removal of the physical wheel weights or is that optional, recommended?

Did it come with metal valve caps or do you need to get those separately and did they say why you need metal valve caps?
 
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 04:11 PM
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Wow! I have been blaming my local Big-O tires for the problem. I am also convinced that there is something wrong with the factory Good Year tires. Mine are inflated to 45 lbs, and look like they are running close to flat. It almost like the sidewall is not strong enough. My tires look like they are eccentric on the rims.

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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MeanGene
Have you noticed any other improvements like ride quality, less vibration in the floor, less noise, that sort of thing?

Did the CounterAct instructions require the removal of the physical wheel weights or is that optional, recommended?

Did it come with metal valve caps or do you need to get those separately and did they say why you need metal valve caps?
Ride quality is improved as I don't have numb hands from the wheel shaking. Seriously though they do improve the ride greatly. Which means less vibration hence less noise. But with my intake, exhaust, road noise never bothered me.

I initially removed my weights but there wasn't any big improvement there. So I reinstalled the weights and that's where everything got sweet.

Far as valve caps, you'll want to order replacement valve cores from them. They have tiny spring filters that will prevent the ceramic beads from coming out if you need to deflate the tire. I'm not sure about metal caps I already have some installed so you might just read up on their website at http://www.innovativebalancing.com/ click on their installation link to see how to do it.

I used a McD's straw that I cut into a spoon shape and poured the beads straight from the little plastic bags into the straw.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 08:33 PM
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I'll have to check the web site out. I did a little reading and I think they have a product that pours right down the valve stem.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 10:35 PM
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.....

Well i just blew more money i got new perfect aftermarket rotors and still the same problem again.....i guess now what do i just try new wheels? WE NEED TO MAKE FORD FIX THIS PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by srdkevin
Well i just blew more money i got new perfect aftermarket rotors and still the same problem again.....i guess now what do i just try new wheels? WE NEED TO MAKE FORD FIX THIS PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who made the after market rotors?
 
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by juice9595
I hope you knocked on wood when you said that.
Personally , I think that the smaller stockers dont exaggerate the underlying problem which still exists somewhere. IMHO , who knows.

No wasn't knocking on wood more like hoping for a miracle actually the stockers I put on are a little taller than the after market ones I took off. I'm just glad it's taken care of for now and hopefully everyone that having troubles can get theirs taken care of also
 
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by juice9595
ok, got the counterAct beads installed... before installation we pulled off all the weights and checked each tire out to see if there was a major tire imperfection and NOPE, as we thought, the worst one only called for 3.75oz.

With that out of the way we popped a bead loose, threw in 7oz of counterAct in each tire, bolted up and hit the road .

1st 10 miles i was not impressed at all, in fact I was ready to go back and have them put the weights back on then
25 miles started to smooth out, less nibble...
300 miles and the nibble is gradually decreasing to an acute annoyance only recognized if I let go of the wheel for a sec "to see"
375 still not perfect, but a major improvement, "would never shake ashes off a ciggy thats for sure" Just the weight of my outstretched arm makes the wheel quit nibbling.


Going to have the front end re-aligned next week to cover all the bases.

So far this is a very easy and economical "band-aid" for now, I got mine 4 free. The most Im out is an hour helping take my tires off/on.
Mine had just a tad of shake at 60 to 70. Added 6oz of this stuff and it really helped. Still have a very slight hint, but then I am really paying close attention right now. Mine was not bad to start with but it was worth the try.
 
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