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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 02:20 PM
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Looks good to me! I was worried about mine at first, but soon forgot all about it!
 
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by triple8
"IF" Ford had designed this truck right in the first place none of us would have to lift the front end to make it sit level. I bought a truck, it should sit high and proud. Not all low and limp in the front. ( Lowering the back of a 4X4 is completely insane to me. )

Nice job Ford. You actaully can not figure out why you loose market share? You stress useless things like cup holders and crap catchers all over your vehiles interiors, loose them and focus on how it looks and functions. It is a TRUCK not a grocery getter.
I disagree. Ford did design this truck right wrt the suspension. The rear end travels alot more than any previous gen 150 because they used a wider, yet softer leaf to afford a comfy ride. This makes the truck look level with about 1 ton in the bed, but the rear is up in the air when empty. It's a trade off between the masses wanting a softer ride with real payload capacity. A leveled truck when empty is just a preferred look for most, but the headlights will go skyward when loaded. So remember, Ford is selling capable trucks, not trophies.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 05:35 PM
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when I had my ranger, i cranked the torsion bars like almost 2 inchs and in less then a year the crapped out becasue of the angle. I want to get the AS 2" also but im concerned, thanks for supplying those pics
 
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by KSpencer
It's a trade off between the masses wanting a softer ride with real payload capacity.
This is an oximoron. First it is a truck. If you want the ride of a car buy a car, do not whine about the harsh ride of a truck. The trade off is goofy appearace for 95% of your travels. If you need to haul a "real" payload buy the right truck for the job, a 3/4 or 1 ton.

Before it gets brought up. YES I did own a SuperDuty. It was sold due to the extremely poor reliability of the 6.0L diesel I spent 5K for, not including the auto trans. It was in the shop 1 too many times for the one year of ownership I had it, and I had purchased it new. The S-D was more than I really needed and I thought the F150 would be more reliable. So I made a trade off, and am still trying to figure out if it was correct.


Driving a masrhmellow of a truck because the "masses" want one is a poor excuse for why these things are so soft. I do realize ca$h talks in the eyes of the big three. But we are talking about freakin truck not Cadillacs.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 12:46 AM
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I put the 2 inch kit in this weekend and got it aligned. I'm a little worried about these angles, what do you think?




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Looks good. What size tires are those? Did you have them on before the leveling kit?
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by triple8
This is an oximoron. First it is a truck. If you want the ride of a car buy a car, do not whine about the harsh ride of a truck. The trade off is goofy appearace for 95% of your travels. If you need to haul a "real" payload buy the right truck for the job, a 3/4 or 1 ton.

Before it gets brought up. YES I did own a SuperDuty. It was sold due to the extremely poor reliability of the 6.0L diesel I spent 5K for, not including the auto trans. It was in the shop 1 too many times for the one year of ownership I had it, and I had purchased it new. The S-D was more than I really needed and I thought the F150 would be more reliable. So I made a trade off, and am still trying to figure out if it was correct.


Driving a masrhmellow of a truck because the "masses" want one is a poor excuse for why these things are so soft. I do realize ca$h talks in the eyes of the big three. But we are talking about freakin truck not Cadillacs.

Whoa, slow down Seabiscuit. If you don’t like the look of the current gen F150, and you had bad luck with a SD, then why on earth would you have purchased it? I bought my 06 Lariat for the same reason I bought my 00 Lariat : Have a luxury vehicle that can haul leftover scrap from construction projects, haul my race car to the track and haul my **** on a 1500 mile road trip in complete luxury. The same cannot be said for the other two players. With them you take the trade. With Ford (at least for now) you get a very isolated, cush ride and the ability to still out haul and out tow. It’s like having your cake and eating it too.

If you don’t like your “compromised F150”, then by all means gorilla glue that yap shut and sell it. Or, you could always continue to lurk around these forums and interject like a nancy from time to time. Just kid’n. Why don’t you post some picks of that jagged up Ford.

PS: I doubt Ford will be sweating any market share loss in the near or foreseeable future. Remember the F150 has been the best selling truck for the last 30 years! It was the best selling vehicle in the US for nearly 20!
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 09:57 AM
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Looks good. What size tires are those? Did you have them on before the leveling kit?

Yup, they are the stock tires..
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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PS: I doubt Ford will be sweating any market share loss in the near or foreseeable future. Remember the F150 has been the best selling truck for the last 30 years! It was the best selling vehicle in the US for nearly 20!
I like to poke the bear in the cage even if the lock is broke. If you know what I mean.

I do like the truck overall, comfortable and still can carry all my junk. It makes a really good driver. A big factor with me getting it was price. It was hard to beat when they were giving over $5K off on top of the employee price. If I can figure out how to post a pic I will.

As for their market share??? I have seen the next one . I'll just say something stinks in the room.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by triple8
I like to poke the bear in the cage even if the lock is broke. If you know what I mean.

I do like the truck overall, comfortable and still can carry all my junk. It makes a really good driver. A big factor with me getting it was price. It was hard to beat when they were giving over $5K off on top of the employee price. If I can figure out how to post a pic I will.

As for their market share??? I have seen the next one . I'll just say something stinks in the room.
Is it a radical change cosmetically? For the worse I'm assuming based on your stinky comment?
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 07:03 PM
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If the ball joints are indeed integrated into the control arm as you stated, then $70 is much cheaper than I would have expected from Ford. Not that bad I guess. So…IF these leveling kits cause the ball joints to fail in say…30-40K miles, then perhaps that price isn’t a bad trade off. Obviously only time will tell. Now, if one were to pay to have the control arm replaced, maybe the trade off isn’t as worthwhile. But if you replace it yourself and follow that up with another alignment, perhaps it might be worth it, to some. Guess we’ll see in due time.
I put my 2" AS on as soon as I bought the truck, now at 9000 miles. I don't like the angle on the ball joints, especially the upper one, but you really don't have a choice unless you leave it stock or move up to a 4" suspension system on the front. I'm fully expecting the ball joints to wear out early. Guys are at 20K plus already without failures so maybe 30-40K mayby 50 or 60. My wife drives a Durango, 100% stock, 70K miles, the lower ball joints have been replaced twice and the uppers once. If my lifted F150 makes it to 40K I'm better than the Dodge. Probably by the time they fail I'll be able to get them at AutoZone with a lifetime warranty, so it'll be a one time buy since I'll do the install.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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ok guys, first off please excuse my ignorance but I need a little clarification. If a 2" (as an example) level on the front of our trucks creates an angle on the ball joints, how do you prevent that? I know stock is one option, but is a full lift the only other option? Someone please give me the low down with out making me feel like a person that ride a short school bus....

also, I think 04sd may have answered my question, but I'm not sure. Thanks for all of your help.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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The full suspension lifts, 4"+, use new brackets to lower the mounts for the lower A-arm and a new spindle to correct the upper A-arm angle. Ball joint and A-arm angles remain at factory specs.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by RandallT
ok guys, first off please excuse my ignorance but I need a little clarification. If a 2" (as an example) level on the front of our trucks creates an angle on the ball joints, how do you prevent that? I know stock is one option, but is a full lift the only other option? Someone please give me the low down with out making me feel like a person that ride a short school bus....

also, I think 04sd may have answered my question, but I'm not sure. Thanks for all of your help.
04sd explained it well. Another way to think about it is the two different ways to change the distance: push the suspension down further by lengthening the coil over (spacer) or change the position that the suspension is mounted to the frame rail (lift).
 
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by rms8
Is it a radical change cosmetically? For the worse I'm assuming based on your stinky comment?

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. mmmmmmmmmmmmm

A little hard to talk with this tape. Does that help? Wish I could elaborate more.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 02:22 PM
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my 04 with 41,000 miles and a 2.5 AS from the first day of owning it is still doing fine. The way I look at it, the truck looks much better... if the ball joints wear out replace them! if its to expensive buy a 6" lift... lol.
 
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