... wait.... huh?


throw me a bone here :santa:

 

Geez, I wonder why QuakerState has stuff like that on their website!?

 

Same reason MobileOne does.

lol. QuakerState = peanut oil to you guys eh? what im confused about now is weather Pennzoil and QuakerState are one in the same

MobilOne seems to be the only way to go.

Nanners for Peanut oil.

 

I agree with Myth #2 and thats it. Anyways, I did get a chance to go to the Myth section on Mobil1's website and they don't list those Myths.

Just some food for thought, if you use the 'Whats the right oil for my car?' section on Mobil1's website. They recommend Mobil 1 5w-20 full synthetic for every category Ultimate, Superior, and Premium.

This is what they did list though.

Myth: You should break in your engine with conventional oil, then switch to a synthetic oil like Mobil 1.
Reality: You can start using Mobil 1® in new vehicles at any time, even in brand new vehicles. In fact, Mobil 1 is original equipment (it is installed at the factory) in:
Acura RDX
Aston Martin
Bentley Amage and Bentley GT
Cadillac CTS, CTS-V, XLR, XLR-V, SRX and STS and STS-V
Chevrolet Corvette C6 and Z06
Chevrolet SSR
Chevrolet TrailBlazer SS
Chrysler 300C SRT-8 and Crossfire SRT-6
Cobalt SS
Dodge Ram SRT-10
Dodge Charger SRT-8, Magnum, and Viper
Jeep Cherokee SRT-8
Mercedes-Benz AMG vehicles
Mercedes SLR
Mitsubishi EVO III
Pontiac GTO
All Porsche vehicles
Saturn Red Line
Viper SRT-10
One of the myths surrounding synthetic oils is that new engines require a break-in period with conventional oil. The fact is, current engine manufacturing technology does not require this break-in period. As indicated by the decisions of the engineers who design the high-performance cars listed above, Mobil 1 can be used starting the day you drive the car off the showroom floor.

Myth: Using Mobil 1 will void the warranty on my new car.
Reality: Mobil 1 and Mobil 1 Extended Performance will not void new car warranties, with the exception of the Mazda rotary engine (Mazda does not recommend any synthetic motor oil). Mobil 1 exceeds the API and ILSAC motor oil service requirements for all new vehicles, both import and domestic. If in doubt, always check your vehicle owner's manual or contact your vehicle's manufacturer.

Since most new car warranties call for shorter service intervals than those enabled by Mobil 1 Extended Performance, ExxonMobil recommends you follow the recommendations in your owner's manual while your car is under warranty.

Myth: I need to flush my engine before switching to Mobil 1.
Reality: No special preparation is necessary when switching from conventional motor oil to Mobil 1 or Mobil 1 Extended Performance.

Myth: Mobil 1 and Mobil 1 Extended Performance require a special oil filter.
Reality: While ExxonMobil recommends that you use a high-quality filter, you can use the same type of oil filter that you would normally use with conventional oil. ExxonMobil does offer a very high-quality oil filter that is a perfect companion to Mobil 1. The Mobil 1 Extended Performance Oil Filter contains synthetic blend filter media instead of the typical cellulose filter media. With a 99.2 percent efficiency rating (under SAE J1858 Multi-Pass Efficiency Test), the Mobil 1 filter is much more efficient than a typical oil filter. Its new high-capacity design stores more contaminants (two times the capacity of the leading brand).

Myth: Motorcycles can't benefit from synthetic oil.
Reality: Motorcycles are an ideal application for synthetic oil. ExxonMobil offers three fully synthetic motor oils for motorcycles:
Mobil 1 Racing 4T 10W-40 is recommended for on-road, high-performance, 4-cycle sport bikes, which are typically liquid cooled. It can also be used in air-cooled engines calling for a 10W-40 oil.
Mobil 1 V-Twin is a 20W-50 oil recommended for 4-cycle V-twin engines, particularly those that are air cooled and tend to run hotter than other types of engines.
Mobil 1 Racing 2T is recommended for two-cycle motorcycle engines that specify the use of a pre-mix, two-cycle engine oil.

(Diesel Myth and Reality)

Myth: Mobil 1 will leak out of the seals of older cars.
Reality: Mobil 1 does not cause leaks. In fact, new Mobil 1 was tested in dozens of industry standard and original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) tests to prove its seal performance. It is fully compatible with the elastomeric materials from which all automotive seals and gaskets are made. If an older engine is in good condition and does not have oil leaks, Mobil 1 provides the same advantages as when used in a new engine. ExxonMobil recommends taking measures to repair the leaks, then using Mobil 1. ExxonMobil also recommends following the automobile manufacturer's manual for the proper oil to use.

 

Actually, the guy didn't mention filters at all, but I'll debate your point.

Of course a filter starts to work best at 3,000 miles. That's when the oil is getting dirty and the filter really starts filtering.

 

Why is this becoming a big debate? I wish there was a counter for how many times this has been debated in the world. Geesh!

1. There was a change in posts.
2. Debate my point? No, but you just agreed my point to some degree. However, the oil starts getting dirty soon as you start driving it, its the same principal as an air filter.

 

Which is exactly why it should be changed every 3,000 miles.

 

. . if you're using dino-oil.

 

Hey. Stop asking questions.

 

lol uberdude & rp. I didn't read the entire thread but I am using RP, and thats my serious observation.

 

Hey RockPick!... what oil do you use in your engine?


i'm not worthy ..

seriously though, i had completely forgotten about this thread untill someone dug it up again.

o well, i've learned that MobilOne seems to be the best. Josiah uses Royal Purple and doesnt know why. and im a DumbA$$ for ever Using QuakerState. Oh, and i ask to many questions.

 

Touche! Really, I'm not against using the high-dollar synthetics. Honest. I'm sure they're fine. Hell, I'll even give the benefit of the doubt that they are far superior in terms of all the technical stuff. I won't even raise the question as to why, if they are so great, do the automakers not use or recommend them. What I don't understand, however, is if they are so beneficial, is why and how do they escape the lure of the mass market.
Take Walmart or any of the auto parts chain stores as an example. Volume sales of ANY product will make more money, and the marketing power of chain stores are great for that sort of business. The store shelves are chock full of any number of oils, additives, and just all sorts of products, including gimmicky ones.
Why then, given their supposed superiority, are they not as widely available as conventional lubricants? I realize Mobile One is an exception, if those of the Royal Purple, Redline, and Amsoil crowd accept Mobile as one the top names. That is what I don't understand. Some products can be sold more profitably utilizing exclusivity. Yet all vehicles need oil. There's money to be made. Tons of it.

One problem I have with extended drains is, again, that the 3,000 mile interval is optimal for other preventive maintenance checks and services, and the oil change just sort of forces a close look under the hood. Additionally, when I drain at 3,000 miles, the oil is usually just a little dirty. I don't see how your premium price oil can escape becoming as dirty as my semi-syn. We're talking about basically the same engine, and let's assume fairly similiar driving conditions. I just don't get it.

 

This should be a sticky, I get tired of repeating this same stuff in oil topics and having half the guys argue with me that KY is much better than any synth and im a moron for getting synth. Good find Thumo

 

I just did a seach on oil/filter debates, and lost count at around 32 or so. There is alot of info here, but it boils down to how I drive and what I use the truck for. For me, I will never need the benefit of these "super oils and filters", so I just stick to the recommeded MC oil/filter at the recommended 5K change.

 

nothing wrong with quaker state. in fact if u use it and change it every 3,000 miles and save the reciepts if u loe a motor do to oil failure, (sludge...) they will warranty your engine. i used quakerstate dino oil not synthetic in my 85 trans am when i was 18 i changed it every 2,000 miles when i bought it it had 90,000 miles i sold it with over 200,000 miles on it and still ran mint.

for the record however in my truck i use mobile 1 or castrol syntec every 3000 miles