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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 08:56 AM
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seriously, call a tow truck, take it to the dealer and get it fixed... if you have this many questions and havnt checked the fuses im pretty sure your not going to be able to fix it yourself. not usually a smarta$$ but come on...
 
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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From the codes i feel it is electerical!
 
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Quintin
I'm trying, reaaaaaaal hard, to change my smart *** ways, so I won't say what want to say, but I'll make my suggestion one more time.

Check for blown fuses. I find it hard to believe that all those systems in all those codes had a failure at the same time that wasn't somehow related between all of them. Always start with the basics before anything else - it's the little things that kill.
Thanks... Sorry for all the trouble... Ill fix all the stuff you said, then come back and tell you what happens.. Hope it works!
 
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Patman03SprCrw
i dunno if the Actuator is the same thing as the TPS (throttle position sensor) which is going to be on the throttle body rod, on the oposite side of the cables. Should be bolted on to the end of the TB.

And my other question is do you have O2 simulators? Your truck should run like *** without them, and that might be the culprit for the codes. Also might want to clean your MAF....
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EDIT i know you are trying to figure this out, but please dont ask "anyone" when its only been 2 min since your last post.
EDIT #2 also sounds like it might be a fuel filter/ pump problem
Okay guys...
Here is where i stand... ive changed the entire throttle body assemnle and the cam shaft sensors, fuel pump, spark plugs, ALL the coil packs and still the same old problem..

Two things remain...

1) I dunno where the throttle actuator is and would like someone to describe it for me... A part number would also help (5.4L V8 Triton FX4)

2) The 02 simulators??!? What are these and where are these... Where would they be located... A part number would also help...

Im sorry that ive been a pain in the ***! The truth of the matter is that the dealerships (2 in Kuwait) refuse to tell me what the parts are that are causing this and would like me to replace and return to all stock which would cost a bundle which i do not have...

Thanks guys! Appreciate all the help i can get!
 
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 03:43 PM
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That is quite a bit of trouble when it is probably a burnt fuse. Check your fuse panel, they have testing points on the top of them without having to pull each one out. Sorry to hear Kuwaits dealer is being an ***, I wouldnt' have thought any different.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 02:18 AM
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That is quite a bit of trouble when it is probably a burnt fuse. Check your fuse panel, they have testing points on the top of them without having to pull each one out. Sorry to hear Kuwaits dealer is being an ***, I wouldnt' have thought any different.
Thanks Josiah! I've checked everything! This thing is starting to really tick me off... i checked the fuses and none are burnt... the only thing left is this throttle actuator thingy and this 02 simulator which i have no idea as to where it is... can u please tell me so i can check those too if i haven't already changed them..

+ isn't there someone i can call or talk or email in the states to complain about this? i mean it's not just me! There's an Excursion load of Customers!!
 
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by MiMiK
Thanks Josiah! I've checked everything! This thing is starting to really tick me off... i checked the fuses and none are burnt... the only thing left is this throttle actuator thingy and this 02 simulator which i have no idea as to where it is... can u please tell me so i can check those too if i haven't already changed them..

+ isn't there someone i can call or talk or email in the states to complain about this? i mean it's not just me! There's an Excursion load of Customers!!
They are plugged into your exhaust, right behind your cats. There are 4 02 sensors I believe. They will look like wires plugging into the pipes, should just pull out. You have headers so look around by your hi-flow cats. They are accessible from under the truck.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 06:06 AM
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Ahhh yes, the old P2106. Good luck getting any help with this one. Ive posted a couple times for help and no one knows anything. The local dealer here in Yuma, Arizona are filled with ****** that dont want to help. Its ok though, I only have to deal with that code when I go on long trips. After a couple days, it erases itself and you END UP PAYING $80 BUCKS FOR A SCAN THAT DOESNT SHOW ANYTHING!!!!
 
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Old Oct 10, 2006 | 03:31 AM
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Ahhh yes, the old P2106. Good luck getting any help with this one. Ive posted a couple times for help and no one knows anything. The local dealer here in Yuma, Arizona are filled with ****** that dont want to help. Its ok though, I only have to deal with that code when I go on long trips. After a couple days, it erases itself and you END UP PAYING $80 BUCKS FOR A SCAN THAT DOESNT SHOW ANYTHING!!!!
So... The same thing happened with you aye? So your just telling me to leave it as is and it will go away!? So this means i have to keep driving around with the truck kicking and idling roughly until it goes away... How will that happen? I dont see how this is possible, that its going to delete its self.. If your right , which i hope you are, someone at the dealership is going to DIE for the money they made me pay on spare parts?

Please Post a reply as to what you did when this occured with you...

Step by Step please...
 
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Old Oct 10, 2006 | 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Josiah
They are plugged into your exhaust, right behind your cats. There are 4 02 sensors I believe. They will look like wires plugging into the pipes, should just pull out. You have headers so look around by your hi-flow cats. They are accessible from under the truck.
What about the throttle Actuator... i changed the 02 sensors yesterday night... What about the Actuator thingy... Thats whats left for me to change...
 
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Old Oct 10, 2006 | 03:43 AM
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if the actuator is the same as the tps then it is a black plastic piece on the passenger side of the throttle body that has a few wires coming out of it and bolted to the rod that goes through the throttle body that the throtle plate is on
 
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Old Oct 10, 2006 | 04:55 AM
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So... The same thing happened with you aye? So your just telling me to leave it as is and it will go away!? So this means i have to keep driving around with the truck kicking and idling roughly until it goes away... How will that happen? I dont see how this is possible, that its going to delete its self.. If your right , which i hope you are, someone at the dealership is going to DIE for the money they made me pay on spare parts?

Please Post a reply as to what you did when this occured with you...

Step by Step please...
I wish I could tell you what to do, I dont understand myself. I would really like to know what IS going on, but with my schedule, its hard to get to a dealership. By the time I have time, the code goes away until I go on my next long trip. Its not only the check engine light that comes on though, its the little wrench AND the ABS lights. Those turn off if I turn the truck off and on again though. The thing that really sucks is my extended warranty just expired, Im still going to try to get Ford to fix it on their tab.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2006 | 12:37 PM
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Are the codes disappearing after you replace these parts? are you actually getting any results? I don't see how all those things went bad at the same time. I can only imagine that the only thing that would have given you that many codes at once would be where all of those sensors are connected.....the computer.....I'm guessing you have the ability to read the codes yourself? and you can reset the computer to see if they come back? If not, I would get a code reader and go from there.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2006 | 05:15 AM
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Are the codes disappearing after you replace these parts? are you actually getting any results? I don't see how all those things went bad at the same time. I can only imagine that the only thing that would have given you that many codes at once would be where all of those sensors are connected.....the computer.....I'm guessing you have the ability to read the codes yourself? and you can reset the computer to see if they come back? If not, I would get a code reader and go from there.
Okay guys... I got something after removing all the cheap taped wiring from the engine bay and pulling out all the sensors...

I decided to disconnect all the wires from the engine, battery, PCM, basically all the wires i could reach! I then connected them one by one chacking if any had melted or fuzed togeather... I found one wire to be loose which was the wire connecting the starter.. I then reconnected all of them properlly and replaced what seemed to be a burnt airmass fuse as the FORD dealership handbook states on the fuse diagram.

Here is what suprised me.. When i started the car it idled normal... then as expected bogged down, died, kicked me in the crotch, screwed me over, pissed me off, and i got the liitle wrench sign.

I was like "SCREW FORD!! WHAT THE HELL DO YOU WANT FROM ME!!?!"

This is what was interesting... Read..

I reached down to where the fuses are and what do you know.. the Airmass Fuse thingy blew again... I checked the rest and none were burnt... I put a new one in again.. Same thing! WTF!?!?

Now this is what confuses me... The Airmass Sensor is the thing that looks like a card which you insert in the air intake above the filter which has a wire leaving it and going somewhere else... I didn't check that wire & i didn't replace the Sensor...

These are my QUESTIONS!:
  1. Can that sensor be burnt that it causes fuse to blow out!?
  2. Is it a possiblity that all that shuddering could have been because of this?
  3. What is the job of this thingy!? Why does it keep blowing up fuses?


Any help is appreciated because this is the last wrong thing with this lousy truck! If i fix this then i could write what happened to me and how i fixed it down and people won't face a similar problem later...
 
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Old Oct 11, 2006 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by gatkins94
Are the codes disappearing after you replace these parts? are you actually getting any results? I don't see how all those things went bad at the same time. I can only imagine that the only thing that would have given you that many codes at once would be where all of those sensors are connected.....the computer.....I'm guessing you have the ability to read the codes yourself? and you can reset the computer to see if they come back? If not, I would get a code reader and go from there.
Yes, they are... It also idles much smoother and even though it bogs down.. i can feel it has a smoother ride and much more throttle response...

Speaking of PCM's, The F150's PCM is a bitch to analyse.. Takes years to check! Oh well... Back to the Hot blistering sun to repair whats left!
 
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