Ethanol MPG YIKES!!!!
#1
Ethanol MPG YIKES!!!!
Just ran a tank of ethanol through my truck and I made a whopping 9.8 MPG. I realize that there would be a decrease in MPG but a drop from an average of 14.5 to 16.0 to 9.8 that is scary. I was going to make another fill of ethanol in greeley cause it is 1.99/gal but when we rolled into town and the trip meter showed 203 miles and the good ole' gauge was on E I went back to 87 octane fuel.
I like the though of supporting the local farmer but even at 1.99/gal it doesn't make sense.
If anyone else has had better results please let me know, mabey I have something wrong with my truck, or the EDGE didn't like the ethanol fuel???
Thanks
I like the though of supporting the local farmer but even at 1.99/gal it doesn't make sense.
If anyone else has had better results please let me know, mabey I have something wrong with my truck, or the EDGE didn't like the ethanol fuel???
Thanks
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#3
Originally Posted by ColoFX4
Just ran a tank of ethanol through my truck and I made a whopping 9.8 MPG. I realize that there would be a decrease in MPG but a drop from an average of 14.5 to 16.0 to 9.8 that is scary. I was going to make another fill of ethanol in greeley cause it is 1.99/gal but when we rolled into town and the trip meter showed 203 miles and the good ole' gauge was on E I went back to 87 octane fuel.
I like the though of supporting the local farmer but even at 1.99/gal it doesn't make sense.
If anyone else has had better results please let me know, mabey I have something wrong with my truck, or the EDGE didn't like the ethanol fuel???
Thanks
I like the though of supporting the local farmer but even at 1.99/gal it doesn't make sense.
If anyone else has had better results please let me know, mabey I have something wrong with my truck, or the EDGE didn't like the ethanol fuel???
Thanks
If one does the math on a 200 mile trip at 9.8 mpg on the ethanol (2 bucks per gallon) or 14.5 mpg on the 87 octane (3 bucks per gallon) it turns out to be a wash. The ethanol will cost you 40.80 and the octane with cost you 41.40 for the trip. Basically, octane will allow you to go farther on a full tank as the only advantage.
#4
I came to the same conclusion today. I've been running E85 in my truck for the past several tanks and not paying attention to the mileage. This afternoon when I filled up I realized that I only got 10 mpg on my last tank. Needless to say I'm going to switch back to 87 for a while and then maybe look into getting a K&N filter and tuner if it doesn't improve as much as I'd like.
#7
Originally Posted by Stealth
Yeah, but gas prices will go down near $2 sooner than you think.
The attitudes here are that of many. We are unable to galvanize ourselves against the foreign interests we all complain about. Even if the burden were on us and not the govt. we could make a difference. If we all were willing to lose a few more dollars a week we can make a difference. Someone needs to educate the people in this country. We expect something without any earned pain. The funny thing is we will allow foreigners to inflict the same pain on our pocket books, unwillingly with worsening results!
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#9
E85 supply will always be as volitile as petrol. Weather seems to be the major contributing factor with both. Hurricanes drastically affected oil refineries last year, fact. We're having severe drought conditions down here, as well as alot of the country, and corn crops flat dried up. No harvest, hence no supply, and everyone knows what happens with less supply. Uppidy up with the prices. One goes up, one goes down, both rise, both fall, you get the picture.
#10
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The 'fix' promised has never been equal mileage per gallon (ethanol vs gas)...but the reduction of dependence of foreign oil. Not to mention an outright renuable resource. I'll be the first to agree we'll never be out from under the thumb of dino, but having the ability to regenerate our own energy source is absolutely a necessity. Black gold will eventually be gone from Mother Earth - not in our lifetime - but will someday be gone. The longer we can preserve that resource through alternative sources, the better off our future generations will be.
I'm far from an tree huggin ecologist (ride dirt bikes, have a Harley and love the Expy and F-150 that are in the driveway), but we do have to start preparation now if we're going to stay on top!!
I'm far from an tree huggin ecologist (ride dirt bikes, have a Harley and love the Expy and F-150 that are in the driveway), but we do have to start preparation now if we're going to stay on top!!
#11
Originally Posted by Stealth
E85 supply will always be as volitile as petrol. Weather seems to be the major contributing factor with both. Hurricanes drastically affected oil refineries last year, fact. We're having severe drought conditions down here, as well as alot of the country, and corn crops flat dried up. No harvest, hence no supply, and everyone knows what happens with less supply. Uppidy up with the prices. One goes up, one goes down, both rise, both fall, you get the picture.
Come on man! E85 can be made from anything with fiberous material. Such as lawn clipping, wood chips, recycled paper, corn stocks, ect. These processes are being used and refined pardon the pun. Hey it's not a magic bullet. I really don't care about gas prices. I am very fortunate to not be affected. How ever I do care about our economy and things of scale. So keep buying oil from the sheik. The knife he cuts your throat with will be the one you bought!
I would pay more to ensure I am atleast keeping these guys from buying another gold plated toilet! LET SOMEONE ELSE PAY FOR THERE WAR on the infidel
#12
Originally Posted by cpu77
Come on man! E85 can be made from anything with fiberous material. Such as lawn clipping, wood chips, recycled paper, corn stocks, ect. These processes are being used and refined pardon the pun. Hey it's not a magic bullet. I really don't care about gas prices. I am very fortunate to not be affected. How ever I do care about our economy and things of scale. So keep buying oil from the sheik. The knife he cuts your throat with will be the one you bought!
I would pay more to ensure I am atleast keeping these guys from buying another gold plated toilet! LET SOMEONE ELSE PAY FOR THERE WAR on the infidel
I would pay more to ensure I am atleast keeping these guys from buying another gold plated toilet! LET SOMEONE ELSE PAY FOR THERE WAR on the infidel
#13
Originally Posted by go_phx
The 'fix' promised has never been equal mileage per gallon (ethanol vs gas)...but the reduction of dependence of foreign oil. Not to mention an outright renuable resource. I'll be the first to agree we'll never be out from under the thumb of dino, but having the ability to regenerate our own energy source is absolutely a necessity. Black gold will eventually be gone from Mother Earth - not in our lifetime - but will someday be gone. The longer we can preserve that resource through alternative sources, the better off our future generations will be.
I'm far from an tree huggin ecologist (ride dirt bikes, have a Harley and love the Expy and F-150 that are in the driveway), but we do have to start preparation now if we're going to stay on top!!
I'm far from an tree huggin ecologist (ride dirt bikes, have a Harley and love the Expy and F-150 that are in the driveway), but we do have to start preparation now if we're going to stay on top!!
#15
E85 has about 25% less energy than 87 octane gas. It also cost about 25% less. So like a previous poster said "its a wash" when it comes to cost savings.
Silver05,
E85 can be used on Ford trucks? On some models that are equipped with Flex Fuel Engines. Regular engines do not have the right components that are compatible with ethanol.
Silver05,
E85 can be used on Ford trucks? On some models that are equipped with Flex Fuel Engines. Regular engines do not have the right components that are compatible with ethanol.