4x4 rear block removal vs. 4x2 drop shackle: Shims
4x4 rear block removal vs. 4x2 drop shackle: Shims
I've searched but didn't find the answer I was looking for.
I noticed alot of people that had installed the drop shackles installed the shims because they needed to or just because they could. For you 4x4 guys, has anyone had to install shims after removing the rear blocks?
I noticed alot of people that had installed the drop shackles installed the shims because they needed to or just because they could. For you 4x4 guys, has anyone had to install shims after removing the rear blocks?
Originally Posted by Tical84
I've searched but didn't find the answer I was looking for.
I noticed alot of people that had installed the drop shackles installed the shims because they needed to or just because they could. For you 4x4 guys, has anyone had to install shims after removing the rear blocks?
I noticed alot of people that had installed the drop shackles installed the shims because they needed to or just because they could. For you 4x4 guys, has anyone had to install shims after removing the rear blocks?
I actually just spent a hour or two researching this myself. I decided to pull the trigger on the rear block removal first (order the 2wd U-Bolts) and see how it goes.... 
Everyone seems to have had good luck going this route...wish me luck (parts should be here next week).
-Travis

Everyone seems to have had good luck going this route...wish me luck (parts should be here next week).
-Travis
Thanks guys, I'll definately be doing it, just wondering if I should buy some shims to install at the same time. I guess I'll wait and see how she rides.
FX4andHARLEY,
The blocks removal vs shackels refers to 4x4 vs 4x2 as the 4x2s don't have blocks to remove so they have to install shackels. What I meant by the origional question was all the 4x2 guys that isntalled shackels put shims in and none of the 4x4 guys that removed blocks installed any shims from what I found.
FX4andHARLEY,
The blocks removal vs shackels refers to 4x4 vs 4x2 as the 4x2s don't have blocks to remove so they have to install shackels. What I meant by the origional question was all the 4x2 guys that isntalled shackels put shims in and none of the 4x4 guys that removed blocks installed any shims from what I found.
Go the 2" block removal route first. It will get you pretty darn level with the front.
I did not think of it when i first got my FX4 and ordered the Ground Force 2" shackles. Well it actually got my about 1.5" and can still notice a rake.
When I get back to the States in a couple months. Bye bye GF shackles(and shimes), 2" blocks and hello 2wd U bolts and a level a** end.
FYI no shims necassary if removing blocks.
I did not think of it when i first got my FX4 and ordered the Ground Force 2" shackles. Well it actually got my about 1.5" and can still notice a rake.
When I get back to the States in a couple months. Bye bye GF shackles(and shimes), 2" blocks and hello 2wd U bolts and a level a** end.
FYI no shims necassary if removing blocks.
Go the 2" block removal route first. It will get you pretty darn level with the front.
I did not think of it when i first got my FX4 and ordered the Ground Force 2" shackles. Well it actually got my about 1.5" and can still notice a rake.
When I get back to the States in a couple months. Bye bye GF shackles and shimes, 2" blocks and hello 2wd U bolts and a level a** end.
FYI no shims necassary if removing blocks.
I did not think of it when i first got my FX4 and ordered the Ground Force 2" shackles. Well it actually got my about 1.5" and can still notice a rake.
When I get back to the States in a couple months. Bye bye GF shackles and shimes, 2" blocks and hello 2wd U bolts and a level a** end.
FYI no shims necassary if removing blocks.
You dont need the ships for block removal because the andle of the axle will be the same. You need them with the shackles because the shackles change only the rear mounting point of the leaf springs... therefore the axle will be at a diffrent angle. You then use the shims to get the angle on the axle back to stock.
It is a little hard to explain without illustrations... but if you know what a drop shackle does it should make sense.
I say definately go with block removal if you have a 4x4. just the other day some guy on here said the dealer was giving him trouble because he had drop shackles on his truck. I doubt they would even notice if you have no block. And even if they did, i doubt they would try to make an issue about it.
-stephen
It is a little hard to explain without illustrations... but if you know what a drop shackle does it should make sense.
I say definately go with block removal if you have a 4x4. just the other day some guy on here said the dealer was giving him trouble because he had drop shackles on his truck. I doubt they would even notice if you have no block. And even if they did, i doubt they would try to make an issue about it.
-stephen
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Originally Posted by 2000F150HD
You dont need the ships for block removal because the andle of the axle will be the same. You need them with the shackles because the shackles change only the rear mounting point of the leaf springs... therefore the axle will be at a diffrent angle. You then use the shims to get the angle on the axle back to stock.
In general whether it be with blocks or shackles, it seems that trucks with two piece driveshafts are more prone to vibrations after lowering the rear. I haven't heard any grumbling from the 4x4 guys who've removed the rear blocks though.
Originally Posted by Quintin
In general whether it be with blocks or shackles, it seems that trucks with two piece driveshafts are more prone to vibrations after lowering the rear. I haven't heard any grumbling from the 4x4 guys who've removed the rear blocks though.
I'd trade you but I can't leave my truck torn apart while I wait for the 4x2 U-bolts.
I know 4x2 U-Bolts will cost me $40 CAD for all 4 so 4x4 should be close to that and blocks shouldn't cost too much either.
I know 4x2 U-Bolts will cost me $40 CAD for all 4 so 4x4 should be close to that and blocks shouldn't cost too much either.
i took the blocks out over a year ago no shims needed and no problems
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Originally Posted by AirborneRacer
So the 2x4 guys are rolling with the 2 pc drive shaft? Just like the new Stangs. Not really feeling the 2 pc deal. What is the benefit of it suppose to be over a 1 pc? Im curious 

And flanagainman, dude, I'm at 1024x768 resolution and your pic is still humongous. Resize it pleeeeeze.



