I'm waiting for this guy I work with to bring his titan in so we can run a few times

 

No, it means you need a hobby!

 

How did you calculate this?

As I mentioned in the "Chips, Tuners & Programming" forum I timed this at a little over 8 seconds with a stopwatch. This is roughly what I am seeing with my truck when I make the same type of video.

So what I would like to know is exactly how are people figuring that these trucks are pulling 6.x second 0-60 times with little more than tuning?

As I also mentioned in the other forum, you may not get an accurate measurement of time when using the speedometer as a gauge so that may explain the discrepancy but otherwise I think people may be exaggerating a bit.

 

Don't feel bad one guy on here said the timed it with a stop watch and said I ran about 8

 

Look up ^.

No matter how many times I check it I see the same result.

 

yes only the track will tell,..... I hear a lot of fuss about the edge tuner but you dont see many videos

 

Gtech.

 

That would be awesome, if you race the titan I test drove, you'll beat him bad. The titan's 0-60 was a high sever, low eight.

Just remember these guys have annorexic trucks that weigh in at a buck twenty Only kidding, but they are not supercrew 4x4's running those. I have just that and many more mods than these guys and I'm not even breaking into the 6's unless it's 40 degrees outside.

And yes, you are right about the lag time in a "gauge" as they are not real-time but our gauges perform the same, so it's a good way to calculate the differences in our trucks, therefore these times we speak of are adjusted times, per say. Regardless, you're not more than a couple tenths of a second off using a gauge. I used a pretty mathematical measurement in some of my video's if you look in my signature links, those 0-60's are pretty accurate. Regardless they have lag-time due to the gauges but it's as close as you can get. Like I said, we're not trying to be scientific about our times, but as close as possible just so we can measure performance gains. Even then, with the times adjusted for lag it's only a couple tenths off at most calculating our times this way. Just take a look at this video of a before and after e-fan installation.

 

Well, my point was I timed the video that was shown in this thread and came up with 8+ seconds.

How are we coming up with different figures?

For what it is worth I have 0-60 videos of my truck and they run very close to what the posted videos show. For example, if I start them at the same time mine show ~57mph when the posted videos show 60mph.

I would love to say I have a truck that does 0-60 in ~6.xx seconds but my own timing says that is not true. And again, I am pointing out what I am seeing from the video that is shown here, not what your Gtech, butt, watch, dog, girlfriend, etc says about your truck.

For those of you that are a little slow in the head, I am not saying it isn't possible, just that I didn't see it.

 

Oh, btw, mine is a 2006 5.4 scab xlt 2wd.

 

Look, I think tuners are great and the 0-60 & 1/4 mile times are great toys to play with. However, you have to consider the feasability of a nearly 5,500 lb truck running a 6-second 0-60 time...

You're talking Porsche 911, Mach I, Cobra territory with sub 5-second times (and JUST under 5 seconds). 350Zs run it in 5.5 seconds (give or take).

It may feel a lot faster and the tuner might be telling you that you're running mid 6-second 0-60 times, but I'd need to see a track slip before I would actually beleive that a tuner could make a 3-ton beast run that fast with a naturally aspirated V8 gas hog.

 

Do you know how far back a second in the 1/4 mile leaves you behind someone? A LONG ways. It's very possible and it is. Take a stopwatch, start it as soon as your truck moves an inch, and stop it when your speedo gets passed 60 (or 57mph if you listen to the previous post, no pun intended at all). It's exactly what we're doing, and it's cold hard evidence of the times we're running (at the very least). Now take into account the speedo lag we're running even faster than those times. The gtech and edge times are counted different so I am not sure how accurate those are, but I'm pretty sure they're very accurate. A 2004 Cobra runs a 4.5 0-60 and a 13 second quarter mile, so it's very possible And turbo porsches run sub 4 second 0-60's. We are lightyears away from even the cobra's 4.5 0-60.

 

My point is that a mid 6-second 0-60 time in an F150 with no boost seems unrealistic. The stop-watch method, Gtech method, and Edge methods are all flawed. Radar guns don't lie. I'll be running down to Atco raceway next weekend (weather pending) with a brand new Edge unit in hand. I plan to make two baseline runs (no Edge), then 2 runs with level 3 tune and 93 octane.

After I get those time slips, I'll post the data (including 60 foot times, 1/4 times, etc...).

I've heard great things about the Edge, I just can't see a 5,500 lb truck with the Ford 5.4 doing anything close to a 6-second 0-60. Hey, maybe I'm way off base (god, I hope so). I'd love to be optomistic, but this truck is the slowest thing I've ever driven. Keep in mind that my Edge is still in a box somewhere on some truck in some state... If the Edge blows me away, then I'm buying stock in that company.

 

How would you explain the very easy to understand stopwatch method? How is it flawed in any way? I'm not aiming to insult, but to understand your arguement. It's more of a 7 second 0-60 too (only pulling your leg)

 

Please explain how these methods are flawed. I use the Gtech simply because it's been proven to be accurate. It uses basic physics to calculate times, acceleration and time, pretty simple really.

I use it because their isn't a good track near me and now I can make timed runs anytime I want. As long as you run the same piece of road, in the same direction, it's easy to determine any gains.

BTW: My truck weighs 5700lbs with a 1/4 tank of gas and me in it.