AF1 install problems
Originally Posted by jpdadeo
If negative posts were to sway opinion, nobody would drive a 04. There are thousands of negative posts about vibration problems and everything else imaginable (ashtray noise, leaks, squeaks, A/C, tires, seats, tailgate, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc) 

I know....I know....I read those posts as well....other than the rear-end shudder...my '04 has been superb....but like I said...these boards tend to amplify the negative....
It just seems to me that there are a lot of design flaws/inconsistancies being reported with the AF1....which makes me want to hold on to my $300 until things are "figured out".....
Originally Posted by jpdadeo
AF1 install problems (name of the thread)
So tell us exactly what problems you encountered during your installation of the AF1
I’m curious as to what your first hand experience was
So tell us exactly what problems you encountered during your installation of the AF1
I’m curious as to what your first hand experience was
I guess I didn't understand there was a requirement to have purchased and installed an AF1 kit in order to relate any Air Intake Systems information good or bad concerning any manufacturer.
Perhaps you can show me where that requirement is, or is it a personnel requirment of yours?
What is your major problem or issue here, or is it that you just want to pick a bone with someone or what.. Get a life my friend....
Originally Posted by jpdadeo
I had the Xcal and Magnaflow muffler for several months before the AF1. That was my last mod on the *bang for the buck* list but I noticed a huge power gain difference immediately on the first test-drive.
go figure
go figure

The biggest telltale sign was the burnout. Before, with the Xcal & Magnaflow I could get maybe 5 or 6’ tops from a tromp, no power braking, but now it more like 10 to 12’ (I got a 3:55 LS)
Before the Xcal it just went huh
Before the Xcal it just went huh
Last edited by jpdadeo; Sep 20, 2005 at 07:28 PM.
Originally Posted by carpenter
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requirement to have purchased and installed an AF1 kit
requirement to have purchased and installed an AF1 kit
1. Dermel or small file
2. Good hammer to straighten out bent tube
3. Extra parts to replace those missing
4. Leather AF1 gloves (without these installation will fail)
5. Extra life
Last edited by jpdadeo; Sep 9, 2005 at 10:30 AM.
I hope nobody takes this personal, but either a lot of people here have NO mechanical abilities, or just want to b!tch about something..Too many "me too's" also.
Look, its apparant that some of the Air Force 1 intakes are not perfectly manufactured, which is upsetting to me also, but for chr!st sake people, suck it up and install the thing. My 12 year old daughter has actually helped me install several of the 3 Air Force 1 intakes I have purchased in the past 2 or 3 years..Your driving a $30,000.00 + truck that also has inperfections and issues so why cry over a $300.00 intake ???
Look, its apparant that some of the Air Force 1 intakes are not perfectly manufactured, which is upsetting to me also, but for chr!st sake people, suck it up and install the thing. My 12 year old daughter has actually helped me install several of the 3 Air Force 1 intakes I have purchased in the past 2 or 3 years..Your driving a $30,000.00 + truck that also has inperfections and issues so why cry over a $300.00 intake ???
Originally Posted by jpdadeo
Requirements
1. Dermel or small file
2. Good hammer to straighten out bent tube
3. Extra parts to replace those missing
4. Leather AF1 gloves (without these installation will fail)
5. Extra life
1. Dermel or small file
2. Good hammer to straighten out bent tube
3. Extra parts to replace those missing
4. Leather AF1 gloves (without these installation will fail)
5. Extra life
Originally Posted by Marc Carpenter
I hope nobody takes this personal, but either a lot of people here have NO mechanical abilities, or just want to b!tch about something..Too many "me too's" also.
Look, its apparant that some of the Air Force 1 intakes are not perfectly manufactured, which is upsetting to me also, but for chr!st sake people, suck it up and install the thing. My 12 year old daughter has actually helped me install several of the 3 Air Force 1 intakes I have purchased in the past 2 or 3 years..Your driving a $30,000.00 + truck that also has inperfections and issues so why cry over a $300.00 intake ???
Look, its apparant that some of the Air Force 1 intakes are not perfectly manufactured, which is upsetting to me also, but for chr!st sake people, suck it up and install the thing. My 12 year old daughter has actually helped me install several of the 3 Air Force 1 intakes I have purchased in the past 2 or 3 years..Your driving a $30,000.00 + truck that also has inperfections and issues so why cry over a $300.00 intake ???
Originally Posted by carpenter
I Never had any problems with an installation of an AF1. I was lucky enough to have read the threads concerning the problems and issues related with the AF1 and choose to purchase a K&N FIPK kit instead.
I guess I didn't understand there was a requirement to have purchased and installed an AF1 kit in order to relate any Air Intake Systems information good or bad concerning any manufacturer.
Perhaps you can show me where that requirement is, or is it a personnel requirment of yours?
What is your major problem or issue here, or is it that you just want to pick a bone with someone or what.. Get a life my friend....
I guess I didn't understand there was a requirement to have purchased and installed an AF1 kit in order to relate any Air Intake Systems information good or bad concerning any manufacturer.
Perhaps you can show me where that requirement is, or is it a personnel requirment of yours?
What is your major problem or issue here, or is it that you just want to pick a bone with someone or what.. Get a life my friend....
You never even had an AF1? Why are you even in this thread? Read the title of the thread - it's not about any air intake systems; it's about the Air Force One. Tell me again who needs a life.
I just received my AF1 from Troyer. I only waited two weeks to get it. Troyer kept me well informed of shipping date, and didn't charge my credit card till it shipped. I did have to spend about 90 seconds refining the bung for the MAF sensor. All other parts fit well. Total install took 30 minutes, max. Yes, the directions miss a few key points, but those with mechanical skills will have no problems. Noise is a personal preference, but I agree with others, I only hear it when I romp on the accelerator. I do not hear it when cruising.
I did ,however, have my CEL set immediately. I reset it per the instructions, and after 20 minutes of driving I have the CEL on again. Now what?
I did ,however, have my CEL set immediately. I reset it per the instructions, and after 20 minutes of driving I have the CEL on again. Now what?
Originally Posted by phenom
lighten up, francis.
You never even had an AF1? Why are you even in this thread? Read the title of the thread - it's not about any air intake systems; it's about the Air Force One. Tell me again who needs a life.
You never even had an AF1? Why are you even in this thread? Read the title of the thread - it's not about any air intake systems; it's about the Air Force One. Tell me again who needs a life.
Who the heck do you think you are trying to tell me when I should or shouldn't post. Bite Me!!!
Originally Posted by carpenter
I'll make the choice to post when I feel that I have a comment that will be of some help to the remaining members of this board.
Who the heck do you think you are trying to tell me when I should or shouldn't post. Bite Me!!!
Who the heck do you think you are trying to tell me when I should or shouldn't post. Bite Me!!!
Now, read my next post about the crappy Air Force One.
So basically, as it turns out, I'm pretty much an idiot.
I misread the airflow direction of the tube, and when the MAF sensor was flipped around properly, it fit perfect. Absolutely perfect. The dremel stayed in its case, and the screw holes lined up perfectly. It's crazy - almost as if they designed it that way.
The post/grommet issue was hardly an issue, as it turned out. It was just a matter of installing them loose, and tightening the screws after.
The vibration damper was also a piece of cake, although the instructions could've been better about this piece, as well as the rubber "washer" that went on the mounting bracket.
I got this help from someone at AF1 directly, and I really wish I could remember his name. After contacting Troyer, they got AF1 in touch with me within just a couple hours. I missed the call, called him back, missed him, and he got back to me within minutes.
The AF1 is absolutely dead silent until I step on it, so my worries about noise issues were unfounded. All in all, I'm completely satisfied with my purchase, and how well it works.
I misread the airflow direction of the tube, and when the MAF sensor was flipped around properly, it fit perfect. Absolutely perfect. The dremel stayed in its case, and the screw holes lined up perfectly. It's crazy - almost as if they designed it that way.
The post/grommet issue was hardly an issue, as it turned out. It was just a matter of installing them loose, and tightening the screws after.
The vibration damper was also a piece of cake, although the instructions could've been better about this piece, as well as the rubber "washer" that went on the mounting bracket.
I got this help from someone at AF1 directly, and I really wish I could remember his name. After contacting Troyer, they got AF1 in touch with me within just a couple hours. I missed the call, called him back, missed him, and he got back to me within minutes.
The AF1 is absolutely dead silent until I step on it, so my worries about noise issues were unfounded. All in all, I'm completely satisfied with my purchase, and how well it works.
Timely thread in my case. I purchased an AF1 some months ago so it must have been an old style, but for many time-related reasons didn't install it until a few days ago. Not being particularly mechanically inclined (last time I worked on my own vehicle was 30 yrs ago -- motorcycles), and having read many posts here about install and operational problems, I had concerns, but forged ahead anyway and the install went surprisingly easy for me. I finished in 2 hours or so. My biggest snag was getting the metal bolt threaded through the mounting bracket and into the tube, which took some time. I wasn't ever sure how to set up the washers either, so I guessed. But I found the instructions mostly straightforward, with good photos, and even down to the warning to be sure to disconnect the negative battery terminal.
It is a bit noisy when I step on it, but not at all noticeable in normal cruise. I might expand the pipe end as discussed in an earlier thread in the hope that the bottle noise will abate on hard throttle.
No CEL so far. I did notice a marked valve knock on heavy throttle but only the first few minutes, and never since.
It is a bit noisy when I step on it, but not at all noticeable in normal cruise. I might expand the pipe end as discussed in an earlier thread in the hope that the bottle noise will abate on hard throttle.
No CEL so far. I did notice a marked valve knock on heavy throttle but only the first few minutes, and never since.
Thats why I ordered an AirAid instead from summit racing. 2 days and its at my door. No waiting around and then having to mod it to fit or sound right... plus i dont like the idea of a metal tube soaking up the heat under the hood.


