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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by GIJoeCam
Well, in that case, I'll be sure and tell the engineers who spent months researching the problem and engineering the solution that they have no clue what they're talking about.... :rolleyes

Carbon build-up can be and is brown. The head's not rusting because it's Aluminum, and the spark plug ground electrode shows no signs of pitting after the brown material is removed... so what's the source of the rust??
Show me anywhere that it says it's carbon. Lab results, a TSB, a fortune cookie. Show me.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Stealth
This isn't carbon, and looks like rust to me.



This is the post the plug pics are from. https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...3&postcount=46

Here's the thread. It's a bible, better pay attention. https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=214810

i am not in any kind of rivalry discussion. i am a disinterested 3rd party. that is exactly the same buildup on the plugs i just replaced this morning. it is carbon. you will find it all over your chamber if you could look inside. on the aluminum and steel.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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i read that thread and it is still carbon deposits. just because it is rust colored doesn't make it rust.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 04:20 PM
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Funny how in the picture there isn't any "carbon" deposits where carbon deposits normally collect on a spark plug. You say potato................

Who cares what the makeup of the deposit is, it's there. It's a _ _ _ _ deposit. Insert your word, whatever you like. It's still there, even if the independent laboratory testing results pertaining to the chemical makeup of the deposits aren't yet in.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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It's carbon, and the reason you don't see the build up where you think it normally would be is because of the heat of the combustion chamber burns it off. It builds up more the farther away from the heat source.

GIJoeCam do you work for Honeywell?
 
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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i agree with that stealth, they shouldn't be there.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 06:39 PM
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On my plugs that were taken out at 20,000 miles per TSB, well they had no discoloration (rust, carbon, whatever) on them at all. The tech showed them to me. Maybe fuel in the different regions of the country burn differently.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 07:22 PM
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Fuel in different regions and driving styles do have a affect.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 04:07 AM
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hey guys and Quintin, so what is the part number of the newest spark plug?
 
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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Any suggestions for a 04 with 73,000 miles? I don't think its right for Ford not to step in on this.

Thanks!

John
 
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ohboy44
GIJoeCam do you work for Honeywell?
Maybe... why?
 
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 09:54 PM
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hey guys and Quintin, so what is the part number of the newest spark plug?
PZT-1F-F4.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Quintin
PZT-1F-F4.
Quintin, do you know if this plug is any different than the PZT-2F-F4?

Is there any upgrade in the design that addresses the spark plug issue, or is this just an example of how you mentioned that Ford likes to keep revising part numbers for spark plugs?
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 12:53 PM
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I believe the PZT 1 and the PZT 2 are different heat ranges with the PZT 1 being colder.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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Thanks.
 
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