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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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Question Magnaflow exhaust & lack of back pressure?

I recently had a magnaflow flow thru muffler put on with 3" exhaust from the cat back. It was done at a local muffler shop. What would i be experiancing if this install had created a lack of back pressure and is that possible. It just seems that the truck is not quite running right. I cant really put a finger on it but maybe even a loss of power. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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back pressure ?

I'm not sure it's back pressure that your missing. Do you have a loss of power? What has caused you to think that it's the mufflers fault?
I have 2 1/2 inch pipes ran straight out the factory location with no mufflers at all and I gained performance. I really think I'd check else where for your problem.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 11:51 AM
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Magnaflow recommends disconnecting the battery during the installation to permit the PCM to adjust to the new conditions...did your muffler shop do that?
 
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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Re: Magnaflow exhaust & lack of back pressure?

Originally posted by MHP
I recently had a magnaflow flow thru muffler put on with 3" exhaust from the cat back. It was done at a local muffler shop. What would i be experiancing if this install had created a lack of back pressure and is that possible. It just seems that the truck is not quite running right. I cant really put a finger on it but maybe even a loss of power. Any help would be appreciated.
Did they change the y out? If they did, that probably is the culprit. Having done this to my truck, I can tell you the stock y needs to be left alone. I had noticeable power loss between 2500 and 3000 rpm. lost about 1.5 mpg also. When I went back to the stock y, and put a Stainless Magnaflow SIDO system on in place of the muffler shop system, power and gas mileage were restored to at least where it was with stock system...Kevin
 
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 12:51 PM
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No the wye was left in they just increased to 3" right after the wye. Its not the magnaflow kit , just the stainless steel muffler and 3" aluminized mandral bent pipe. single outlet
 
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by Curmugeon
Magnaflow recommends disconnecting the battery during the installation to permit the PCM to adjust to the new conditions...did your muffler shop do that?
I would second this motion...
 
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 01:12 PM
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Well mines Magnaflow cat back system came with SS 2.5" tailpipes and 3" tips at exit and no signal of loss power but of course noticeable powerful and nice sounds/rumbles!!!

Maybe thats why your tailpipe a bit too big- 3" ??

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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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Thanks for the sugestion, As soon as it quits raining here in sunny san diego I'll give it a try.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 01:20 PM
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Thanks for the sugestion, As soon as it quits raining here in sunny san diego I'll give it a try.
With the incredible dependence that our trucks have on technology and computer based systems, I have a hunch this will solve your problem.... there are simply too many 'flow' sensors in the mix... I really think resetting them will be a golden bullet.

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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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bigger pipe = less back pressure?

3" seems a little big, don't the use 3" pipe for diesels?
 
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 04:24 PM
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SteveVFX4,

yeah it ll lose some back pressure.

YOMAN!
 
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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The problem is not flow, its exhaust gas velocity. When you go to a bigger pipe the exhaust gas looses velocity. This hurts exhaust gas scavenging, which in turn kills the low end torque. If you go to the Maganflow site, they post the instuctions on how to install there kits. They start from the second slipjoint and put in a 3" pipe which is about a foot long (roughly). This is way past the y connection.

The only reason I know this is that I talked to Mike Troyer last week about this exact issue. He explained to me why I didn't want to do anything at the Y, or for that matter anything other than what Maganflow designed in there cat back exhaust kit. They are one of the few companies that actually do flow testing. It was designed to increase torque not loose it. The fact that you get about a 12HP bump isn't bad either.

Hope this helps.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 09:10 PM
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The Magnaflow SI/SO Catback 15609 uses 3" Mandrel bent SS pipes with a 4" Tip.

If you have SI/SO 3" is recommended

If you have Duals, it should be 2 1/2 or 2 1/4 I believe.

I have the SI/SO, and I gained performance, I didn't lose anything

Try resetting your computer.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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rbraughn,

Thanks for catching that. I didn't mention I have the SIDO. And it is 3" in and 2.5" out.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 09:52 PM
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Disconnecting the battery will force the PCM to relearn the adaptive strategy again but two or three drive cycles will do the trick too.
 
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