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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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I do have a programmer, but not sure how much it's worth since it's a hypertech(all that is available for the 04's) The insulated intake, and a 180 Tstat. I'm pretty happy with it so far.

Don't think I will have it out much once the blower comes back for the other truck.
My programmer yielded approx. 4.5 tenths off my 1/8 mile time. But, the 1714 for the Fords are much more capable than the HEMI tuners. Shift pressure changes at the touch of a hand. I dont know of the HEMI's can do that. So, since most guys see about 6 tenths 1/4 drop with the HEMI programmer I'd guess that it's worth about 2.5 in the 1/8th. Not alot, but anything counts ya know?

Those are good times though and the truck looks friggin sweet man. Lowered and everything. Alot of people commented on it that I came with. We got you on video too man. Looks good rollin down the track. I'll see ya up there again.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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It's still hard to find n/a trucks to race around here. Go figure.

btw the cheapest wheel tires package I could come up with.....

17x7.5 OEM wheels- $75
Nearly brand new 275/40/17 Nitto 555r's-$100
Nearly brand new 245/45/17 Falkens-$50

Total of: $225



These are just play wheels, I dont roll around in them all the time.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 07:20 PM
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Yeah, but with your set-up you could feasibly pull on some boosted vehicles out there.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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My deal is.... I cant build a full on street truck. I go off road to hunt and fish quite often. So, I cant lower my truck any lower than it already is. Its already too low. And I dont want street only tires because they wont be worth a crap on grass/mud.

Even though I want to lower it and all that stuff, I cant sacrifice function for looks.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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My deal is.... I cant build a full on street truck. I go off road to hunt and fish quite often. So, I cant lower my truck any lower than it already is. Its already too low. And I dont want street only tires because they wont be worth a crap on grass/mud.

Even though I want to lower it and all that stuff, I cant sacrifice function for looks.

Werd, I understand that.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 11:24 PM
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My programmer yielded approx. 4.5 tenths off my 1/8 mile time. But, the 1714 for the Fords are much more capable than the HEMI tuners. Shift pressure changes at the touch of a hand. I dont know of the HEMI's can do that. So, since most guys see about 6 tenths 1/4 drop with the HEMI programmer I'd guess that it's worth about 2.5 in the 1/8th. Not alot, but anything counts ya know?

Those are good times though and the truck looks friggin sweet man. Lowered and everything. Alot of people commented on it that I came with. We got you on video too man. Looks good rollin down the track. I'll see ya up there again.
The Hypertech isn't much. It does nothing for the tranny, and not much for the torque management BS. I am waiting on the superchips to come out, and I will instantly switch!

I look at your truck, and kindof wish I had got a regular cab F150 instead of the Dodge. I drove a couple of extended cabs, and was not impressed with the performance at all. I got a good deal on the Dodge, and it has pretty good performance so I am happy.

I'll see you out there; I think I about live out there! Might/possibly/HOPEFULLY be in the Lightning next time!
 
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Old Mar 15, 2005 | 03:44 PM
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Yeah, if you drove any extended cab with the 3.55 diff and the larger 32.70" tires on there you wont be impressed. Most of them are like that. I drove them and almost didnt buy one. But, then I did the math I guess. Mine came stock with less weight, more gearing and smaller tires (diameter wise) so bone stock I was pulling 9.95's up there compared to some 10.5's in the SCAB models with 3.55's.

I got a great deal on my truck. Sale price was only 20,895.00 before rebates, A-plan and trade in. I ended up financing only 12,995.00 for the truck. Payments are like 280.00 a month. I aint complaining.

BTW, I special ordered it from the factory because I wanted the RC SB with the 5.4L and posi diff. They searched the ENTIRE inventory for one and couldnt find one like it.

He said I was the first to order one like that with the smallest 2WD package, lowest gears and biggest engine. LOL!!!

I like it. There ARE things I like about the Hemi's, but the Ford sold me and I have pretty much always driven Fords. I just like the look I guess.
 

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Old Mar 15, 2005 | 08:29 PM
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Yeah; I was in a spot where I had to trade in this F250 I had(tranny was just about to go out )

I actually drove a 3.73 gear smaller tired open diff truck, but it just didn't impress me. It was high, and very plain looking. And World Ford pissed me off bad when I was trying to work out the trade in. I got a deal just about like you on the Dodge so I couldn't pass it up.

I don't know why they won't order the regular cab trucks like you got. Guess nobody wants a sportier truck anymore. My dad has a rare truck that he had to order. It's a regular cab dakota 4.7 V8 auto 3.92 gears, bigger tires/wheels, and all power options. It's pretty quick, and there were no dealers with them like that. It would probably go mid 9's stock.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2005 | 08:52 PM
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Yeah, unfortunately I have noticed on this board and on FTW that peoples interest in sport trucks is basically non-exsistant.

It seems like everyone just refrs to the Lightning (no pun intended...I almost bought one). But, the fact is you can have a great looking truck that performs well too. I personally DIDNT buy my truck for towing and stuff like that. I wanted a sleeper.

But, everytime I bring up racing or track times on this board or FTW, I almost always get no replies or the few I do get have to do with how they didnt buy their truck for racing.

DTW is thriving with street stories, track racing and go fast stuff. Dodge is on the ball for performance, but I think Ford has a much better aftermarket crowd. Funny how you dont see alot of them on here.

A while back I started a Reg Cab Short bed thread for truck racing. It had about 200 replies, but most of them were from me and Fatherford. I think he is in the 13's without boost by now with all of his mods.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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I love street trucks.. I just love trucks.. ..
To me, they look just as good jacked up in the air and they do down low in the weeds.

My deal is that I have a 2wd, regular cab, short wheel base. Perfect platform for a nice street truck.. But I simply CANT transform my truck into a complete, all-out street truck... because its not. I would love to put on a 2/5" lowering kit, and some chromed out wheels and new gears, and all the go fast goodies.. but It wouldnt be sensible for me.

Right now, I have AirAid intake, Superchips, and custom exhaust... next come pullies and e-fans... and eventually gears and an ignition upgrade....

But Im just gonna slow it back down when I get the 2.5" leveling kit and 32" tires.

So, I'll be back to square one..
 
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Old Mar 15, 2005 | 09:45 PM
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The street truck scene isnt here for these trucks because they are known for the slugness. Lets face it, its true. The roush truck ran a what, mid-high 14 with a blower? I mean wtf.

Good for me though, because people who dont know my truck thinks its slow and that im stupid for betting some skrilla on a race

I would love to go mod crazy on this truck, and if it wasnt my daily driver I would. I think these new engines have huge potential, specially with boost. Maybe in a few years i might do that to this truck, but by then im sure other people would already be doing it. No im not talkign about 6lbs of boost and that kiddy stuff, im talking 18-20lbs of boost.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2005 | 09:52 PM
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True to some degree. But you have to admit that these the new 04's (especially in our case) have proven themselves beyond what anyone expected (including ourselves).

I mean to take my truck what it was stock and where it's at now with simple bolt-ons is quite a jump in my book.

They are known for being sluggish but only because EVERY odd is against them. Gear ratios (tranny and diff), 5 spd vs. 4 speed, weight, HP, TQ....etc. Yet, we have guys on here pulling 15.3 in the 1/4 in his loaded Supercrew 4x4. (not sure if you saw that or not).

Personally, I think Ford underrated their engine (as they have been known to do) and the potential of this engine is quite substantial over the competition. Just my two cents.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2005 | 10:05 PM
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The street truck scene isnt here for these trucks because they are known for the slugness. Lets face it, its true. The roush truck ran a what, mid-high 14 with a blower? I mean wtf.
I think it was worse than that. It was like a 7 sec 0-60mph. I was doing 7.5 or less STOCK.

Think, they took a Supercab @ 5244lbs and added a body kit, 20" wheels/tires, Supercharger (added weight), and all that to it. That thing had to weight a good 5400lbs when it was all said and done empty weight and most likely with 3.55 gears. Add fuel and body weight and you have a 5600+ lb race weight.

So, we are looking at a stock dyno + what Roush claims for RWHP increase. We have a 5500lb vehicle putting down approximately 350RWHP. With the weight increase they only gained a portion of that to benefit them.

I say, drop some 4.10's in there to accomodate the wheel size, put on some 295/45/20's, make it a RC SB POSI and see what happens. I bet youhave a good 13 second truck on your hands.

Lightnings at 4600lbs are seeing mid 13's STOCK with 380 flywheel HP and 450 ft lbs TQ. Wonder what mine will see with 400RWHP and 450ft lbs at the wheels weighing the same as a Lightning?

Considering we will be the same weight and we both have the exact same tire size and gear ratio stock. I bet I can pull off high 12's with stickys.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2005 | 08:00 PM
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Lightning's are actually in the 4800+ range stock. And it is pretty well believed they are underrated from the factory too.

I love trucks; never owned a car

I've had a 00 ClubCab Dakota that went 9.5's; I have had a 00 F250 SuperCrew that went 9.7's Had a boarding GMC with a 305 that went 10.4's<--never did anything to it; have the Lightning that goes 7.3's and looking for more! Have the Ram that just went 9.11 and hopefully better.



There are some more quick N/A trucks in the area; you just gotta know where to find them. You should come over to Pensacola on a Saturday night; there is usually a few out.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2005 | 08:29 PM
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Oh, no doubt they are underrated from the factory. Ford is known for that and I know from experience. Dunno why either.

I wasnt saying I am comparable with a Lightning at all.......for now atleast.

You have to be modded though on that L. 7.30's is quick and no where near stock. Mid-high 8's in the 1/8th is stock if I am not mistaken.

I think I read they were 4600+lbs stock curb weight. I am running right around a 4660lb curb weight with 1/4 tank of gas at the track and about 4760 on the street. So, that puts me at about a 4900lb race weight at the track with me in it. 5060lbs with me in it on the street.

I just want to see 8.9 or better NA before I Procharge it.

Yeah, I love trucks too. Only car I owned was an early 80's Supra and I had it for about 6 months. I dont like cars....period. Even the fast ones. I can ride in them, but I woudnt want to own one.
 
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