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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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Lockers?

I hope I am asking even about the correct product. I have a 3.73 Non-Limited Slip 4x2 and want to know can I get lockers for the rear wheels to help inprove tracktion. The way it was explained to me is that it would be like the positrac on chevy silverados.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 11:24 AM
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There are different types of lockers for trucks. I wont go into detail because you can do a search and find more info than you would probably want. But to answer your question ,Yes, there are lockers for our trucks. You just have to figure out which brand of locker and what type would best suit your needs.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 11:33 AM
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Thank you, I am glad to know at least I asked about the right thing.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 11:37 AM
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No problem, if you want a place to start looking I would try "Detroit Lockers" they should have a website with a lot of useful info on the different types they sell.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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I personally woudnt want to get a Detroit locker because it would be a nightmare for round town driving. I would look into getting a Air Locker. This way, you flip a switch and its locked, release the switch and return to open or limited slip diff.

My buddy HAD a Detroit locker on the back of his Jeep and it hated it for street use.

He took it off and added air lockers to the front and rear. He likes em' so much he doesnt shut up about them.
Just mount a Co2 tank for the air.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 08:16 PM
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Air lockers while a great product are totally dependant on proper install ( VERY FEW ARE ) because a leak will keep them from working. Also there is the compressor that must be onboard to run it.
A better solution is an electric locker, turn on time is is in milliseconds. Much simpler. Eaton is one is one that comes to mind.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by digipax
Air lockers while a great product are totally dependant on proper install ( VERY FEW ARE ) because a leak will keep them from working. Also there is the compressor that must be onboard to run it.
A better solution is an electric locker, turn on time is is in milliseconds. Much simpler. Eaton is one is one that comes to mind.
But unless he plans to wheel this truck (which I doubt) the cost of a locker seems pointless. Like said, for round town, your going to have it open, the only time you would want it locked is if you are in a case when you totally need both rears turning together to get out, like off roading.

A locker is pointless on a truck thats not going to be wheeled with. Get a L/S, It will be way less and you will get the disired results.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 10:19 PM
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how much does a limited slip run compared to a locker?
 
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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 11:21 PM
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To go with a ARP air locker your looking at about $800 plus install, a eaton electric is about the same. More then likely a L/S will be half that cost.

Basically the short on L/S v. Lockers for those who dont know is a locker will always drive both tires with the same power, great in mud and for going straight, horrible on turns.

A L/S takes power from the slipping wheel to the one with tracton. When you powerbrake you trick the system basically and thats how you spin posi. L/S also sends less power to the outer tires on a turn. L/S still turns worse then a open rear, but its not horrible.

Lockers are not worth the money unless you intend to wheel the truck.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 09:06 AM
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Detroit Lockers sell more than one type of lockers for those who think they would be a nightmare around town. I have owned a 4WD with the "Truetracs" in both front and rear ends and had absolutely no problems whatsoever. No clicking because it is a worm gear design and will allow going around corners with no problems either. So before downgrading a company because they sell one type for serious off-roaders that make some noise in turns you should find out what all they sell. Thats why I told him to go to their website and do some research. Maybe some of you should also because they do make different types for different degrees of off-roading and some are very streetable. If you decide these arent for you fine try some other websites and research theirs too. How hard is it to read a post completely?
 
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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I said dont get a Detroit Locker if he is going to be doing mostly street driving. Dont get me wrong here, Detroit lockers are GREAT for off-roading, nun-better, but for an everday street ruck... no way. They squeal the tires around turns and if the itres bite the pavement good, they bounce and vibrate around turns too. Lockers are bad for pavement in the rain also. If your turning sharp in the rain with a locker, your rearend slides out REAL easy.

By me saying "Dont get a detroit", I didnt mean they werent good, they're great, but I think electronic or air locker would be much better.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 01:29 PM
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Is a LS something I could install myself? Do you know where I can buy the factory LS my dealer said when I trade they will take off if the parts I add are not Ford.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 08:29 PM
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khendrix 2374, dont get me wrong but you still arent reading my post in its entirity. "Detroit Lockers" the company makes more than one type of "locker" for installation. The one your buddy bought is called the Detroit Locker and is for extreme off-roading but that is not the only "locker" type that they manufacture. They make a couple of others including the ones I bought called Detroit Truetracs which are less heavy duty and very streetable, no tire squealing around corners and so forth. Im just saying dont scare someone away from one product if you dont know what all they make because a buddy said one product didnt suit his taste. Hope this clears thing up a little.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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A true trac is not a locker.Yes it is made by the same folks that make the detoit but it is a gear based limited slip.No special additve needed. I have had true trac, power trax no slip "lunch box" locker, arb and a detroit locker.I wouldnt recommend a locker unless you are doing real offroading or need it to pull a big boat out of the water.Then on a nice riding truck like the f150 I would spend the money and do it right with a selectable like arb or an electric. The only thing is the electrics are still rather new to the market and the arbs have great reps when installed properly.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 11:03 PM
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ok. I am going to completly re-phrase my posts....



phiberoptik957, I personally, from my experience, would not recommend a 100% locker for a street truck. Period.
 
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