I've seen some favorable DSB outcomes here for the vibes (congratulations!), has anybody filed for or won a DSB for the steering nibble alone? Thanks

 

Just for the harmonic vibration......

Ron

 

A nibble, like any other car, would tell you your front tires are out of balance.


Chris

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by sweetsc
[B]A nibble, like any other car, would tell you your front tires are out of balance.

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WARNING: Don't go there .... Too many owners can prove that
diagnosis as wrong. 99.9 % of the time that's the case with the
exception of some of theses systems, ( esp. earlier builds.. )

 

Aplomb,

I’m curious also. Since my dealer’s master Service Tech can fix my nibble using the POS factory tires and wheels, but not my BFGs and Eagle wheels, I’m sort of stuck.

I’m hoping to see someone either fix their nibble permanently, or win a DSB for it.

Sweetsc,

Trust me, I’ve had my tires balanced twice, and Road Forced once. It’s not the tires; it’s the truck. NO truck should have to have tires Road Forced within 15 R1H, and no truck should have to have the tires/wheels indexed to counter the run-out on the hub. It’s just not normal. But that’s what the TSB calls for.

Try getting the guys at Wal-Mart to break out the feeler gauges next time you want a tire rotation!

Chuck

 

I can't even get the dealership to follow the TSB. I've printed it out for them both times I brought the truck in for the nibble. They don't seem interested in following it or solving the problem in any way for that matter.
And Chuck I'm with you, no vehicle should require such a complex wheel/tire balancing procedure. I've driven old trucks with large out of balance tires that didn't have the nibbles, this is a $39,000 ride for goodness sake! I had a Ford F250 buyback 10 years ago for a design problem they couldn't fix, I should have learned my lesson about Ford. Screw me once shame on you.......

 

I have a temporary win but I am not holding my breath. My rear tires where Road Force balanced at a 38 and 40 rating. Ford extended the warranty to 3 years (mine is 15 months old and 14501 miles when I took it in. (just so everyone knows BFG offered to check them well, I called them but you have to go to an authorized BFG dealer for the warranty {pro-rated after a year})

They also installed the dampner kit. I only have 60 miles on it since I picked it up. The nibble so far is definately gone but the vibration is not. 50 of those miles where at 65+ and thats when it was the worst for nibble. I will be driving a good bit tomorrow so we will see. So far so good.....

 

My problem is I got the nibble about 40% of the time. 60% of the time it's smooth as glass.

When I installed the KleenShields on the front end I never did anything special when I remounted the tires. I'm sure they must of wound up in different positions on the lug studs. It never changed the nibble a bit. The nibble would come and go just like it did before I had the front the wheels off.

I think the nibble has to do with the two front tires rolling in sync. I've felt the nibble both come and go when I going around a big curve on the highway. The tire on the outside of the curve travels farther than the inside tire. This changes their position in relation to each other and will either start the nibble or make it stop.

 

Several dealers are telling Ford customers that the 18"inch tires on these new trucks are developing "flat spots". Even the TSB for nibble says to drive the vehicle 30 mile to "eliminate flat spots". I wonder why the Nissan Titan with 18" Goodyear Wranglers don't develop the "flat spots" or the Dodge trucks that have 20"inch wheels / tires don't get the flat spots???????

 

Sounds like BS to me. Flatspots are completely gone within 5 miles at the most. Not 30 lmao. If that were the case, most people would be driving with them all the time.

 

Flat spots/tires have nothing to do with the quality of the truck. Get new wheels/tires for God's sake. It's nibble, it's in the tires or suspension. Change the tires/rims and if the nibble goes away, bingo, problem found.

The new F150 is so smooth and quiet, every tiny nibble/vibration/noide is going to amplify. Other trucks that ride rought and loud would never show.

 

That is utter nonsense. It's been documented here that high quality aftermarket wheels and tires are not a cure for the nibble. For that matter replacing the wheels and tires should not be neccessary at all! And, I've driven old beat up trucks with oversized off road tires that did not have the nibbles. The justification of the truck being smooth and quiet so it amplifies input is ridiculous. Just because the truck has a smooth suspension and an insulated cab is not an excuse for my steering wheel to oscillate on a smooth road! And contrary to what some want to believe here there are plenty of other vehicles including pickups that have a ride as good as the Ford, and they don't have a steering nibble problem. What other $39,000 dollar vehicle requires such a complex process of tire balancing that may or may not keep the steering wheel from shaking on a smooth surface? I would argue none! If some of you have a perfect truck then I am genuinely happy for you and I wish you years of enjoyment. But don't try to justify or downplay the problems some are having or worse yet deny there is one.

 

aplomb,

I may be finding out the answer to your question the hard way. Today, my dealership refused to look at my truck due to my aftermarket tires/wheels. I had them put it in writing for me. I just got off the phone with Ford Customer Service and the nice lady said that they have to side with the dealership.

Sooooo, my DSB packet is on the way here. IAW the KS Lemon Law, I’ve got to try the DSB route first.

We’ll see….

Chuck

 

If you get a buy back I will be next in line!

 

Chuck,
Good luck to you, I hope things turn out in your favor. After my own experiences with Ford and reading about the experiences of others on these boards I don't think I've ever come across any company with such a lack of regard for it's customers. It's really pitiful.
I picked up my truck from the dealer today and so far so good. They road forced balanced the tires (finally) and the nibble seems to be eliminated. I drove home in traffic though, the real test will be when I can air her out a little on a smooth highway.
Also, ten years ago when I had an F250 bought back by Ford the Texas lemon law had no real teeth. Part of the way through the process I just gave up on it. I found an attorney with experience dealing with the big three and things got done! I hope your lemom law is better than mine. My best to you, I know what a headache it all is.