[QUOTE=tarajerame;3736478]then look at the live wire from SCT,

I saw those on their site, and it made me wonder if the livewire is the same as an Xcal, just in a dash pod form instead of hand held...if so, then I may lean that way..

 

[QUOTE=1BAF150;3736510]
http://www.sctflash.com/LW.php


basicly does the same thing as the gryphon

 

Did PHP go out of buisness?

 

No, I dont think so..their site said that alot of their staff had experienced really bad cases of food poisoning, so they had to shut down for a week or two because they were understaffed and didnt want to provide "mediocre" customer service..

And thanks tarajerame! Gonna check it out right now!

 

question for taj...on the site for the link you posted most recently, would I have to mail it off to vmp or troyer to get it custom tuned? Only asking because that sight just seems to be a distributor, not a custom tuning specialist..

 

i think built54 has an SCT 2 or he might have upgraded to a 3 but im not sure.

also you could look for a local dyno/speed shop my local one wants only 400 bucks for an SCT2 3 custom tunes and an hour on the dyno to tune it. but then again my local speed shop is livernois

call around and ask see what you find these guys know what to do and plus your tuned and ready to go in an hour rather than waiting for tunes via mail. look for someone who does lots of newer mustangs because they'll know how to do good with these 4.6 modular motors

 

NO, they are just refusing to carry a defective product, they still offer the sct tuning and the gryphon for the '04 and up trucks the gryphon for the '97-'03 trucks was having power cord issues


the site I just posted for the SCT Livewire is the SCT Main page, it's the same product that Troyer, PHP and VMP all carry


I am a big fan of the Xcal2 and I have 2 of them plus I have the other required guages so I don't need my tuner plugged in constantly

 

Yea but all the sudden their bad? They have been supporting them all along. Wow , I wonder how many people got screwed by PHP because of this deal ?

 

it's a cable issue for the '97-'03 trucks and Bill decided it wasn't worth it anymore but they still offer them for the newer trucks and still support the existing 97-'033 gryphon customers

 

Who sells the cable? Guess I'm not getting it , or something ? Doesn't PHP sell the cable with their Gryphon? Guess it needs to spelled out in a way that's easy to understand maybe...Iduno. :o

I've only seen PHP and Gryphon together as one , are they seperate companies ?

 

I would, but I live in North augusta, SC...aka: no dyno's around here...Im fairly positive the only one even remotely close that might be worth it is probably in Atlanta. If there was, I probabaly wouldnt have even started this thread haha! Thats why I need to custom tune via mail...sucks, but makin lemonade out of lemons

 

nope, PHP is the only company that offers the edge converted to a gryphon


according to the message posted by Cory, the cable is failing


https://www.f150online.com/forums/ch...ement-php.html

 

Got it!