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Old 04-03-2000, 01:39 AM
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Question 285/60/16 for $142 each. Good deal?

Hi, everyone.

I'm looking to buy some wider tires for my truck, and i came accross discount auto tires selling 285/60/16 for $142 each. Does anyone know of a better deal? Please let me know. Its my next project.

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Old 04-03-2000, 01:52 PM
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What size tires do you have now? I believe that 285 is the height 60 is the Width and 16 is the wheel size. If i'm correct you would need to have smaller than 60 (wide) tires to be getting wider tires.

As for the price I just bought 285/75/16's for 149.99 (but don't have them on the truck yet - waiting for the wheels to get in) and saw them advertised at Discount Tire for the same and at a new tire shop for 148.99 so $142 sounds about right. I may be wrong but I thing 285/75/16 are a more popular size.

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Mak 3, You got it backwards. 285 is the width in milimeters. 60 is the percent the tire is tall compared to the Width.

285/60/16's would be approx 11" wide and around 30,31" tall
285/75/16's are approx 11" wide and 33" tall
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Old 04-03-2000, 03:41 PM
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ccla, well I just went to the BFG Website and downloaded the PDF file with all the applications and here's what I found:

The only 285 I saw was a
285/75R 16/D
and the specs read Overall Diameter 32.9" and Tread Width 9.2"

I also saw a
33/12.50R 15LT/C
and the specs read Overall Diameter 32.7" and Tread Width 10"

So now I know on the 33's that it is 33" TALL (HEIGHT) and 12.5" WIDE so I believe that You've got it backwards in your post:

"You got it backwards. 285 is the width in milimeters. 60 is the percent the tire is tall compared to the Width."

& it is 285 mm TALL (Diameter=Height) and I will agree with you that the 60 or 75 in my case is a %, but the % wide not tall.
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I hate to say I told ya but here ya go. Straight from tirerack.com

"Tire sizes decoded

The first number is the width of the tire in millimeters, measured from sidewall to sidewall. To convert to inches, divide by 25.4 In the example above, the width is 185mm or 7.28".

The second number is the aspect ratio. This is a ratio of sidewall height to width. In the example above, the tire is 7.28" wide, multiply that by the aspect ratio to find the height of one sidewall. In this case, 185x0.60=111mm or 7.28"x0.60=4.36".

The last number is the diameter of the wheel in inches.

To figure the outside diameter of a tire, take the sidewall height and multiply by 2,(remember that the diameter is made up of 2 sidewalls, the one above the wheel, and the one below the wheel) and add the diameter of the wheel to get your answer.

Example...185/60R14 85H or 185/60HR14

185mm x .60=111mm x 2=222mm + 355.6mm(14")= 577.6mm or 22.74"

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About what the numbers mean, it goes like this...

the first number is the width of the tire in milimeters. the next number is the aspect ration of the first number, which gives you the height of the tire between the edge of the wheel, and where the tire meets the ground. The third number equals the rims size in inches...

So...

285/60/16

Gives you 285 mm in width

285 X 60% gives the distance between the edge of the wheel and the street, in this case 171 mm,

and finally, 16 is the rim size in inches.

To find the width of the tire inches, just convert 285 mm to inches. Divide that number by 29.9, and it'll give you an approximate number in inches. In this case, it'll be 9.5" in width.

To find the overall diameter of the tire, you mutiply the 285 number by 60 percent = 171. You convert that into inches and it'll give you 5.7". Now remember, that's the distance between the wheel and the street, so you'll have to multiply that times two. (I lose alot of people on this step.) You end up with 11.4" Then you add the diameter of the rim, 16", and you'll get the overall diameter being 27.4 or so. I rounded off a bit, but thats basically how it works. Follow the formula, and then go outside with a measuring tape and you'll see for yourself.

The reason why i want this size tire in particular is because i have 235/70/16 tires. And if you do the math, you'll see that the height of the previously mentioned tire will be the same as what i have. I wont need to recalibrate the speedometer, and i'll have wider tires.

I new math came in handy for something. =P

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Ok NOW I get it.....they just started teaching the metric system when I was in school and I must have slept through it....

But now the formulas in the above two examples are for METRIC sizes only...correct?
For example a 33/12.50 16.5 is not 33" wide?
And IF they are not the same (as in formulas) why do they make the numbers look the same XXX/XXR XX ? And does anyone know why we have tire sizes in Metric and Inches anyway, is it just for more selection??

Thanks for setting me straight.

And after consulting my trusty ruler - (If I'm reading it right!) 285mm = 11.5" (approx.) and I know my tire isn't 11.5" tall...got it, but that brings me back to the 33/12.50 question - I guess there is no relevance between the two different types of sizes, they just make them look the same to be even more confusing???

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As to why some numbers are metric and others are in inches, i have no freakin idea.

I have no idea why one number would be in millimeters, the next a percent, and then third in inches. I guess the engineers just wanted some of us to do some math. Its a conspiracy.

And in regards to the tires that aren't in metric measurements, i guess they just got tired of explaining the conversion and formulas and stuff.

"The truth is out there." =)

But, at any rate, was that a good price that i mentioned way up there in the beginning of this post?

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You didn't mention the brand, which can be important, but you can't find 285 BFG's out here in CA for less than $148.99 and I paid 149.99 for mine which I thought was fine after shopping around and you're doing $8 bucks better than that!
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I'm really not interested in the brand. It could be built by addidas for all i care. I'm just going for the look really. If theres a cheaper quality brand out there that sells for less than $142/tire, then i'm there.

By the way, Mak 3, do you a picture of your tires? I love to see how they'd look, thanks.

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I ordered the Tires and Wheels from 4wheelparts and I'm waiting on the Weld Wheels (they are directional - and they only have right sides right now and have to make and ship the left sides). The BFG All-Terrain T/A KO's are new and they look AWESOME - one of they guys here at work just got them and they are much more aggressive looking.

Once I get the Tires and Wheels on I'm gonna take some pics and I'll post them.

Oh...and what brand were they selling for $142? I know you said they could be made by adidas, but I would only go with a *quality* tire...you still get the look, and the safety and performance is much better.
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Hi,

The tires that i saw for $142 were for BFGoodrich Sport Truck T/A HR4 C RWL. But I just found some Goodyear Eagle GT II for $92. I think I'll be going with those. anyone else find a better price. Oh, I found that price at the Tire Rack.

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Gawd! I hate the way that manufacturers size tires....!!! Why can it be simpler, like just specifying the actual measurements of height and width, instead of this ratio crap?

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You need to be picky about your tire purchase. Brand name may not be important, but when you realize that some tires just plain look better than others even though they are the same size, its because of the brand. Side wall and tread design in addition to size all make up the look you want. Also, if you are planning on using stock wheels, the width will also effect the look. If the new tire is much wider than the original, the sidewalls get pulled in and give a rolled edge look. When you match the rim width with the tire with, again you get a better look. Going to a 285/60/16 from a 235 or 255/75/16 is not a big difference in width, but you are looking at a taller tire. I could be wrong, but when you say you want "the look" and if your seeing other trucks, most people are doing whats called Plus Sizing. That is, you increase the rim size up 2 - 4 inches and shrink the tires side wall down. This gives you a overall tire height near the stock tire. It just looks better and will not effect your speedometer.

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Thank you for your response.

I know that the tire brand does make a difference, but my original question was more directed towards price. I've found some tires for $92 each. Has anyone else found any other tire, regardless of brand, for a cheaper price.

Oh, by the way, the brand is goodyear, eagle gt II. I'd say that's a pretty good company, but my question wasn't about companies, but about price. That's why i was asking that question originally.


By getting the 285/60/16, it'll be about 1% taller than my stock tire. Not a noticable difference in the speedometer. Also, by maintaning the stock sixteen inch rim, I'll be providing a smoother ride for myself, passengers, and the car itself. Having larger rims does look cool, but it doesn't absorb the shock as well as keeping the stock rims. The added vibration from larger rims, and having lower profile tires, might lead to parts of the engine falling apart. Also, by plus sizing, you'll be increasing the probability of pinching a tire between a pothole and the rim. The tires used for plus sizing are also very expensive. Such as a 295/40/20 that i saw. Its just about the same size as my stock 235/70/16. Can you guess what the price was, well I'd be able to get four 285/60/16 for the price of one 295/40/20. I don't want to be paying for some high tech tire if i'm not going to be using all of its high tech benefits, such as "Y" rating for speed.

I've done my bit of research on tires, and i know what i want according to the appearance. If its got white lettering, and it looks funny, i'll just have the letters turned inward. Problem solved.

But anyways, has anyone found a tire going for a cheaper price than $92 each?

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