Has anyone removed their stock engine in a 1997 to current F-150 4.6 or 5.4 (I have a 99' 4.6) and installed a SOCH 6.8 V10 Triton engine Does anyone know of someone that performed this swap

It appears that back in 1998, a person installed the v10 in a 97' Mustang. I am considering options for my future engine build and I am trying to determine the details of such an engine swap in my 99' 4.6 F-150. Thanks.

 

Ahhhh, the search for horsepower continues

 

HI!... IRON HORSE : I looked into installing a v-10 engine into my truck a few years ago. Back then, there was not a lot of aftermarket parts for the V-10. Now there is a bit more. It will be a very tight fit. You will have to use electric fans as pushers and possibly move the rad forward, deleting the A/C condensor and A/C it'self. You will have to use a 4R100 tranny. Try to get a LIGHTNING 4R100 at lest it will hold up to the torque. You will need a shortened driveshaft. You will need to fabricate custom engine mounts or use a engine plate. You will need heavy duty front springs to keep the truck from sagging in the front and messing up your alignment. Custom exhaust will be needed. You will most likely have to upgrade to the 9.75 rearend. The 8.8 won't last long behind the V-10. You will need a V-10 PCM and it's complete wiring harness also. It's a lot of work but it can be done. I was very seriously going to do this swap last year but to be honest with you....... I hate the way a V-10 sounds, that's my main reason for not doing it.

 

Thought I read from Factory_Tech that the V-10 4R100 had more plates in it then the L 4R100 trans.

Could be wrong, but the trans needed for the V-10 is the 4R100 trans made for a V-10.

Dad's 38' Itasca RV has the V-10 and the 4R100 trans for that engine, and it has no problem what so ever ( came that way from Itasca, not a swap out ).

Maybe I need to find Factory_Tech's write up on the delta between 4R100 models again...?

 

iron horse,

I will let you know how it goes when I blow up my 4.6.

JMC

 

Here is a link to an interview with Mike Arnett. He installed the SOCH 6.8 V 10 Triton in his 97' Mustang back in 98'. This is the only info., I could find on his install:

http://www.gulftel.com/vnomsss/topnews/mikearnett.htm

 

I can not find an instance of a 6.8 V10 swap in a 97-to current F-150. Not even one

As Neals info shows, it appears that it would not be a cost effective swap. I am still trying to decide what my engine build will be, this is what I am considering installing into my magnacharged 99' F-150 4.6 :

1. SOCH 6.8 V10 Triton (my Magnacharger would not fit)

2. SOCH 5.4 Lightning Longblock only (with some internal "work" so that it could handle close to 1,000 hp at the crank but, my Magnacharger would not fit)

3. SOCH 4.6 forged internals with cobra crank and at least PI heads and rated to handle 800 hp at the crank. (Magnacharger would fit)

4. MODMAX Stroker all forged internal Kit for 4.6 SOCH (makes it a 5.0) and can handle 800 hp at the crank with supercharger cams and PI worked heads (Magnacharger would fit)


If you were me, and you wanted:

A. Increase hp and tq. of the engine itself

B. Use supercharger at high boost levels

C. Wanted to use NOS

D. At least 650 hp/tq. at the rear wheels.

E. Did not want the engine to blow up

F. Cheapest, easiest, and most reliable.

Which of the 4 choices would you choose and why? Thanks for any and all input!

 

Iron Horse:

You've got the power bug bad!

You can have it:

1) Powerful
2) Reliable
3) Cheap

But you can only pick two of the three!

Ian

 

Hey Ian!

This is a future project, of course. I am just trying to determine a "shopping list" right now.

If you were me, what would you do?

 

iron horse,

If you want to spend the least amount of $$$ then rebuilding what you have will be the cheapest. The next option would be rebuilding a 5.4 and the last one the 6.8. If you have the space/talent learn to rebuild an engine yourself. That is how I learned.

Here is what I would do. Keep adding parts to the current 4.6 until it blows up. Only add parts that will be compatable with both the 4.6 and 5.4. This will minimize wasted parts if you switch to the 5.4. This will also give you experience in what works and what doesn't. When the 4.6 finally gives up in a puff of smoke then you can use your experience with the parts you used to determine what your next step will be. One last thing; There is no substitute for cubic inches.

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier

 

JMC,

If you decide to rebuild or swap engines for yourself, what will you do?

 

I would not rebuild the 4.6. When it blows up it is gone..... It would be time for a 5.4 or the V10. The safer thing would be the 5.4 as there more aftermarket add ons for it than the 6.8. So there is more potential in the 5.4 than the 6.8. Regardless of the engine choice I will need a beefier tranny. I am close to 270 HP and 350 lbs of torque as it stands now. I fear the tranny will go before the motor. When it does I will swap in a ZF 5 or 6 speed from a SD along with the bigger T-case. For the record my next mod will be long tube headers and Hi flow cats. At present my driver side shorty header is cracked and I have reinstalled the OEM exhaust manifold on that side.

JMC

 

JMC,

Another guy on another ford site said the same thing when another person asked about putting a v10 in a bronco. The guy said their is more potiential for the 5.4. He also said something about boring out the 5.4 makes the v10 cubic inch argument moot. I did not know, that there were stoker kits or larger pistons and rings for the 5.4?