4X4 Conversion?
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#2
ill tell you the easiest route would be to go total SAS. But if you go this route you will want atleast 6" of lift to justify it and clear all the crossmembers. The 2wd transmission can still have a t-case made to fit it, or just use a divorced case. then the front axle would be there already for a front d-shaft, this is by no way EASY but its doable. If you can find some DEALs you can get it done for about 6k
Im SAS my 99 check out the build thread link in sig. my truck is a 4x4 though
if you want the stock 4x4 dont even waste your time. not worth it.
#3
depends.. do you want to lift it? or stock heigth.
ill tell you the easiest route would be to go total SAS. But if you go this route you will want atleast 6" of lift to justify it and clear all the crossmembers. The 2wd transmission can still have a t-case made to fit it, or just use a divorced case. then the front axle would be there already for a front d-shaft, this is by no way EASY but its doable. If you can find some DEALs you can get it done for about 6k
Im SAS my 99 check out the build thread link in sig. my truck is a 4x4 though
if you want the stock 4x4 dont even waste your time. not worth it.
ill tell you the easiest route would be to go total SAS. But if you go this route you will want atleast 6" of lift to justify it and clear all the crossmembers. The 2wd transmission can still have a t-case made to fit it, or just use a divorced case. then the front axle would be there already for a front d-shaft, this is by no way EASY but its doable. If you can find some DEALs you can get it done for about 6k
Im SAS my 99 check out the build thread link in sig. my truck is a 4x4 though
if you want the stock 4x4 dont even waste your time. not worth it.
#4
well if it helps thats what i bought my 99 F150 4.2L V6 4x4 for back in septmeber of 07.
My build is gonna run about 4k for EVERYTHING but im helping ALOT on the install, you will need more parts than i did, and shop rates differ. You could probably do it for 4-5k if you did alot of work and got ALOT of deals. And dont forget to sell the stock stuff that makes up money.
you could also leave the stock rear axle and find a Dana 44 HD that would be a minor upgrade, but then you have 2 different bolt patterns (nothing wheel adapters cant fix). Id say if you went this route you could do it for under 3k
My build is gonna run about 4k for EVERYTHING but im helping ALOT on the install, you will need more parts than i did, and shop rates differ. You could probably do it for 4-5k if you did alot of work and got ALOT of deals. And dont forget to sell the stock stuff that makes up money.
you could also leave the stock rear axle and find a Dana 44 HD that would be a minor upgrade, but then you have 2 different bolt patterns (nothing wheel adapters cant fix). Id say if you went this route you could do it for under 3k
#5
the 97-03 F-150 pretty much uses a two-piece frame. the front section is where the 4x2 and 4x4 differ. the 4WD version has a huge IFS crossmember, along w/ the front differential housing mounts, and differential crossmember.
if you were to SAS your truck, the 2WD frame is actually preferred over the 4WD IFS frame, due to the lack of the IFS stuff listed above.
forget converting your stock 4x2 into a stock 4x4. totally not worth it on these newer trucks, it's not nearly as simple as on the older trucks.
if you were to SAS your truck, the 2WD frame is actually preferred over the 4WD IFS frame, due to the lack of the IFS stuff listed above.
forget converting your stock 4x2 into a stock 4x4. totally not worth it on these newer trucks, it's not nearly as simple as on the older trucks.
#6
well if it helps thats what i bought my 99 F150 4.2L V6 4x4 for back in septmeber of 07.
My build is gonna run about 4k for EVERYTHING but im helping ALOT on the install, you will need more parts than i did, and shop rates differ. You could probably do it for 4-5k if you did alot of work and got ALOT of deals. And dont forget to sell the stock stuff that makes up money.
you could also leave the stock rear axle and find a Dana 44 HD that would be a minor upgrade, but then you have 2 different bolt patterns (nothing wheel adapters cant fix). Id say if you went this route you could do it for under 3k
My build is gonna run about 4k for EVERYTHING but im helping ALOT on the install, you will need more parts than i did, and shop rates differ. You could probably do it for 4-5k if you did alot of work and got ALOT of deals. And dont forget to sell the stock stuff that makes up money.
you could also leave the stock rear axle and find a Dana 44 HD that would be a minor upgrade, but then you have 2 different bolt patterns (nothing wheel adapters cant fix). Id say if you went this route you could do it for under 3k
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the 97-03 F-150 pretty much uses a two-piece frame. the front section is where the 4x2 and 4x4 differ. the 4WD version has a huge IFS crossmember, along w/ the front differential housing mounts, and differential crossmember.
if you were to SAS your truck, the 2WD frame is actually preferred over the 4WD IFS frame, due to the lack of the IFS stuff listed above.
forget converting your stock 4x2 into a stock 4x4. totally not worth it on these newer trucks, it's not nearly as simple as on the older trucks.
if you were to SAS your truck, the 2WD frame is actually preferred over the 4WD IFS frame, due to the lack of the IFS stuff listed above.
forget converting your stock 4x2 into a stock 4x4. totally not worth it on these newer trucks, it's not nearly as simple as on the older trucks.
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#9
take a look at my thread (link in sig)
its alot of money to invest (if you plan on keeping the truck)
Im gonna be pushin to stay under 4k dollar budget but its going to raise the private party value to over 10k i wont ever sell this truck but if i was to make a price i garuntee it wouldnt be under 13k after everything said and done.
But i also live in one of the HOTTEST markets for trucks like what im building.
its alot of money to invest (if you plan on keeping the truck)
Im gonna be pushin to stay under 4k dollar budget but its going to raise the private party value to over 10k i wont ever sell this truck but if i was to make a price i garuntee it wouldnt be under 13k after everything said and done.
But i also live in one of the HOTTEST markets for trucks like what im building.
#10
Its entirely possible to do an SAS on a 97+ F150 for way less than $3k (excluding tires).
76-79 D44 from an F150 or Bronco.
8.8 rear axle from a mid 80s F150 for a matching rear pattern.
Divorced Ford NP205 tcase
New leaves out back, coils up front, new shocks, new steering links, and radius arms
As long as you don't got crazy trying to build the axle you could do the swap for around $1k. Thats doing all the work yourself, but thats assuming you actually have fab skills. You could save money by getting a divorced chevy np205 and chevy D44 since they are a dime a dozen.
76-79 D44 from an F150 or Bronco.
8.8 rear axle from a mid 80s F150 for a matching rear pattern.
Divorced Ford NP205 tcase
New leaves out back, coils up front, new shocks, new steering links, and radius arms
As long as you don't got crazy trying to build the axle you could do the swap for around $1k. Thats doing all the work yourself, but thats assuming you actually have fab skills. You could save money by getting a divorced chevy np205 and chevy D44 since they are a dime a dozen.
#11
Its entirely possible to do an SAS on a 97+ F150 for way less than $3k (excluding tires).
76-79 D44 from an F150 or Bronco.
8.8 rear axle from a mid 80s F150 for a matching rear pattern.
Divorced Ford NP205 tcase
New leaves out back, coils up front, new shocks, new steering links, and radius arms
As long as you don't got crazy trying to build the axle you could do the swap for around $1k. Thats doing all the work yourself, but thats assuming you actually have fab skills. You could save money by getting a divorced chevy np205 and chevy D44 since they are a dime a dozen.
76-79 D44 from an F150 or Bronco.
8.8 rear axle from a mid 80s F150 for a matching rear pattern.
Divorced Ford NP205 tcase
New leaves out back, coils up front, new shocks, new steering links, and radius arms
As long as you don't got crazy trying to build the axle you could do the swap for around $1k. Thats doing all the work yourself, but thats assuming you actually have fab skills. You could save money by getting a divorced chevy np205 and chevy D44 since they are a dime a dozen.
I priced out doing a D44HD for the front and leaving the stock 8.8 in the rear and i was looking at right over 1k without tires, or wheels.
My build includes tires, wheels, axles, springs and all other parts neccessary for the swap. Im going to be right at or slightly over 4k.
Another thing is if you plan on running BIG tires you will want to try to find axles with your desired gear ratio in them. This will save close to a grand if you can find them. I got lucky my Dana 60 King Pins have 5.13's already installed as well as lockers
but powerstroke is absolutely correct the price to do just a front swap is cheap, and if you do all the fab yourself the price for that is even cheaper.
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#13
But the WHOLE install, would run me about a grand.
I bought my D60's front and rear king pins 5.13's, lockers and wheels for $1500
that too me is a great deal.
#14
It's not a bad deal since stockers can go for 1k easy. I would have like to found an dh44 with cromoly shafts for 200 though! Explorer's are lighter and have less power though so they hold up to an extent.
For a f150 d60 is the only way to go.
Money will depend mainly on if you farm out the work or do it yourself. And your ability to find deals!
I have probably around 1k in my explorer SAS. By the time it's finished, maybe 2k...but I think that may be high
For a f150 d60 is the only way to go.
Money will depend mainly on if you farm out the work or do it yourself. And your ability to find deals!
I have probably around 1k in my explorer SAS. By the time it's finished, maybe 2k...but I think that may be high
#15
It's not a bad deal since stockers can go for 1k easy. I would have like to found an dh44 with cromoly shafts for 200 though! Explorer's are lighter and have less power though so they hold up to an extent.
For a f150 d60 is the only way to go.
Money will depend mainly on if you farm out the work or do it yourself. And your ability to find deals!
I have probably around 1k in my explorer SAS. By the time it's finished, maybe 2k...but I think that may be high
For a f150 d60 is the only way to go.
Money will depend mainly on if you farm out the work or do it yourself. And your ability to find deals!
I have probably around 1k in my explorer SAS. By the time it's finished, maybe 2k...but I think that may be high