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Old 12-13-2014, 09:04 PM
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Procharger vs Edelbrock

I've been running a P1sc1 on my 2010 5.4 for a few months now but I'm considering switching to the E-force (I would do the whipple but there is no kit). I really need more bottom end. Let me know if you guys think its a good idea and why. My setup: full Stainless Works exhaust with LTs and 47# injectors with JDM tuning, around 9psi boost.
 

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So it turns out that the Whipple is a possibility (maybe). It appears that it will bolt up to the 2010 and I only need tuning. If anyone can confirm that, it will be my third option. Procharger (installed) vs Edelbrock vs Whipple...
 
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Originally Posted by Low F350
So it turns out that the Whipple is a possibility (maybe). It appears that it will bolt up to the 2010 and I only need tuning. If anyone can confirm that, it will be my third option. Procharger (installed) vs Edelbrock vs Whipple...
How about an Eaton swap ?? Looking for more low end off line grunt huh?? (I know the P1 likes rpms).
 
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Old 12-14-2014, 06:16 PM
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Don't really know much about the Eaton on the newer 3v 5.4's but I'm open to all suggestions.
 
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Don't really know much about the Eaton on the newer 3v 5.4's but I'm open to all suggestions.
I was just wondering how feasible something like this could work on a truck same 5.4L and year

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-5-4L-SVT-Lightning-Supercharger-F150-m-112-svo-mustang-swap-/261680457062?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3ced5ee566&vxp=mtr
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Originally Posted by Low F350
So it turns out that the Whipple is a possibility (maybe). It appears that it will bolt up to the 2010 and I only need tuning. If anyone can confirm that, it will be my third option. Procharger (installed) vs Edelbrock vs Whipple...
I know I've seen some others do this on 09-10 5.4 3v's

https://whipplesuperchargers.com/ind...&product_id=25

Contact whipple if it can be done and they'll support it....

 

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First of all he will need to find a lower intake with an intercooler that fits the 5.4 3v heads and then try to make sure the head units will work with that lower intake

Every screw head unit has a matching lower intake unless an adapter plate is made to change the head units and this has been done for the lightnings to adapt to the newer m122 eaton and the larger whipple but that's only for the eaton m112 lower intake for the 5.4 2 v
 

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You could always use the roush setup with a custom tune. A kit for the 04-08 5.4 3v could be made to work on a 2010 5.4 3v. A roush is basically an eaton anyway.
 
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i would make sure that what I had was running like it should and that I had taken a ride in a similar vehicle with a whipple or roushe to make sure i was being realistic about what to expect.

when I first got my gsxr1100, 5.0 mustang or my 09 z06 i thought , man that is fast, no need to up grade. bike got big bore kit, cams v&h pipe and new carbs, 5.0 got every bolt on known to man and the z06 got an lmr slayer package.

be realistic.
 
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I wouldn't make changes to a kit when a different one is available to be bolted on and done. I don't like ProChargers, Vortecs, Paxtons, etc. They're belt run turbos and I don't know why people put them on trucks or muscle cars.

That aside, I don't know if I could stomach the costs of swapping out supercharger systems. But I'd rather just go with the Edelbrock versus farting around trying to make a Roush or Whipple work and creating headaches for yourself. The Edelbrock IS an Eaton. Pretty much the same TVS 2300 system Roush uses, unless I'm missing something.
 
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Originally Posted by KMAC0694
I wouldn't make changes to a kit when a different one is available to be bolted on and done. I don't like ProChargers, Vortecs, Paxtons, etc. They're belt run turbos and I don't know why people put them on trucks or muscle cars.

That aside, I don't know if I could stomach the costs of swapping out supercharger systems. But I'd rather just go with the Edelbrock versus farting around trying to make a Roush or Whipple work and creating headaches for yourself. The Edelbrock IS an Eaton. Pretty much the same TVS 2300 system Roush uses, unless I'm missing something.
That's what I am leaning towards. Edelbrock uses TVS 2300 rotors and I like the idea of a ready to go kit. All I would need is tuning. I used JDM tuning last time and they did pretty good but I really want to find someone local that can put it on a dyno and get me some real numbers. Guess its time to put the Procharger in the classifieds...
 
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Originally Posted by Low F350
That's what I am leaning towards. Edelbrock uses TVS 2300 rotors and I like the idea of a ready to go kit. All I would need is tuning. I used JDM tuning last time and they did pretty good but I really want to find someone local that can put it on a dyno and get me some real numbers. Guess its time to put the Procharger in the classifieds...
That's what I'd do as well. One less thing to worry about making work. Most folks seem to like JDM from what I pick up on here.

Where in GA are you? Maybe some folks can chime in on some local dyno places. All the ones in Texas that I know about are primarily GM/LS guys. Fords are such a PITA to do anything with.
 
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Originally Posted by KMAC0694
I wouldn't make changes to a kit when a different one is available to be bolted on and done. I don't like ProChargers, Vortecs, Paxtons, etc. They're belt run turbos and I don't know why people put them on trucks or muscle cars.

That aside, I don't know if I could stomach the costs of swapping out supercharger systems. But I'd rather just go with the Edelbrock versus farting around trying to make a Roush or Whipple work and creating headaches for yourself. The Edelbrock IS an Eaton. Pretty much the same TVS 2300 system Roush uses, unless I'm missing something.
The enforce is a good kit if the truck already has an efan setup but if the truck has a clutch fan then efans will need to be added cause the clutch fan is in the way

Like the saleen kit the alternator gets turned backwards to allow for clearance of the supercharger drive pulley

Instructions for the enforce...
http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/.../1000/1581.pdf
 

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Originally Posted by KMAC0694
That's what I'd do as well. One less thing to worry about making work. Most folks seem to like JDM from what I pick up on here.

Where in GA are you? Maybe some folks can chime in on some local dyno places. All the ones in Texas that I know about are primarily GM/LS guys. Fords are such a PITA to do anything with.
I'm about 30 min north of Atlanta. If anyone knows of a local tuner let me know. Thanks
 
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Originally Posted by 88racing
The enforce is a good kit if the truck already has an efan setup but if the truck has a clutch fan then efans will need to be added cause the clutch fan is in the way

Like the saleen kit the alternator gets turned backwards to allow for clearance of the supercharger drive pulley

Instructions for the enforce...
http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/.../1000/1581.pdf
That's the 04-08 version. My 2010 came with e-fans so the kit is a bit different.
 


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