Windsor vs. Romeo engines???
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Windsor vs. Romeo engines???
Besides where they are produced of course, are there any differences between the Romeo and Windsor motors?
Is one preferred over the other? If so why?
I know that you can tell which one you have by looking at the 8th character in the VIN: If it is a W it's the Romeo, and if you have a 6 it's the Windsor.
Is one preferred over the other? If so why?
I know that you can tell which one you have by looking at the 8th character in the VIN: If it is a W it's the Romeo, and if you have a 6 it's the Windsor.
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HI!... The ROMEO engines (4.6) have a girdle that runs on top of the cams on the heads. The WINDSOR does not. The ROMEO has a slightly different timing chain guide set up. The WINDSOR has more valve cover bolts than the ROMEO. The WINDSOR also uses a dowel set up on the main caps. IMO the WINDSOR is the better of the two engines. Most of the problems you hear with the 4.6's are the ROMEO buit design.
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Windsor Vs Romeo
I have had numerous Windsor, Cleveland and Romeo engines over a 40 year period. Have had two 4.6 L Romeo engines and still driving one at 107,000 Miles. Have an 02 F150 with a 5.4 L Windsor. They have all been good engines with no major problems. In the old days Cleveland engines were preferred by racing folks because of the better flowing head design. The 351 design running on NASCAR now is the Cleveland version.
An acquaintance who has worked for a large Ford dealer for many years told me that Ford has had more problems with the Windsor plant - maybe because of the number and variety of engines. He said that labor issues at the Windsor plant nixed a turbo diesel V6 that Ford planned to build at the Romeo plant. Windsor wanted it built at both plants. Ford wanted to tool up at only one plant and wanted Romeo for some reason.
I have no doubt that either or both are good engines.
An acquaintance who has worked for a large Ford dealer for many years told me that Ford has had more problems with the Windsor plant - maybe because of the number and variety of engines. He said that labor issues at the Windsor plant nixed a turbo diesel V6 that Ford planned to build at the Romeo plant. Windsor wanted it built at both plants. Ford wanted to tool up at only one plant and wanted Romeo for some reason.
I have no doubt that either or both are good engines.
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Of the two, the Windsor was designed for truck use. In addition to the above differences sited by Neal, the Windsor also had a beefer rod and heavy duty oil pump.
It seems that the 4.6 is no longer produced as a Windsor engine. I have been looking for a Long block for a while now and all the ones out of late model Ford Trucks have 6 bolt cranks and are Romeo built.
I have a complete Windsor short block, new on a Ford Pallet. I was going to sell it but now it looks like I will use it as a base for a forged shortblock build. The question now is "to stroke or not to stroke"...
It seems that the 4.6 is no longer produced as a Windsor engine. I have been looking for a Long block for a while now and all the ones out of late model Ford Trucks have 6 bolt cranks and are Romeo built.
I have a complete Windsor short block, new on a Ford Pallet. I was going to sell it but now it looks like I will use it as a base for a forged shortblock build. The question now is "to stroke or not to stroke"...
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http://www.engine-builder.com/ar/30631.pdf
Reading this old thread and thought I would post some conflicting info I found.
Reading this old thread and thought I would post some conflicting info I found.
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Originally Posted by Neal
HI!... All 5.4's and LIGHTNING engines are built here in WINDSOR. 95% of the LIGHTNINGs were built here in ONTARIO (OAKVILLE) as well. Just proves tha us CANADIANS build the best trucks!LOL!
Last edited by 97on37s; 04-17-2006 at 10:42 PM.
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