Tire reviews driving me bonkers!
Time for some new tires for my 2007 F-150 FX4 Super Cab, they'll be P265/65R18's if it matters. At this point the truck doesn't get a lot of miles a year, in fact the last set of tires is being replaced due to age and not wear, but it tends to see the worst conditions. Rain, snow, some ice. I don't really off-road, maybe a lightly muddy dirt road from time to time, so I was really focusing on rain/snow traction.
Went to the sites of some of the major vendors online, found their own reviews, read a bunch of the submitted reviews. And, well, now I'm going bonkers. One major site did a very through winter review (went to Sweden even for a test track!) and so I'm thinking that's a good review for snow performance. I pull up the user reviews for that tire and I immediately find 4-5 reviews of people living in snowy places complaining they are the worst tires they have ever had in the snow.
I dunno if it's people who don't know what they are talking about, paid trolls, honest reviews, but they are just all over the map for all of the tires I'm looking at so I don't know who to believe. Some of the ones I've checked out are Dueler AT Revo 3's, Continental TerrainContact A/T, Michelin LTX A/T 2. I suspect a KO2 is more aggressive than I want. Folks seem to agree the Pirelli Scorpion AT+ is no good in the snow.
Help?
Went to the sites of some of the major vendors online, found their own reviews, read a bunch of the submitted reviews. And, well, now I'm going bonkers. One major site did a very through winter review (went to Sweden even for a test track!) and so I'm thinking that's a good review for snow performance. I pull up the user reviews for that tire and I immediately find 4-5 reviews of people living in snowy places complaining they are the worst tires they have ever had in the snow.
I dunno if it's people who don't know what they are talking about, paid trolls, honest reviews, but they are just all over the map for all of the tires I'm looking at so I don't know who to believe. Some of the ones I've checked out are Dueler AT Revo 3's, Continental TerrainContact A/T, Michelin LTX A/T 2. I suspect a KO2 is more aggressive than I want. Folks seem to agree the Pirelli Scorpion AT+ is no good in the snow.
Help?
As odd as this is, I've had the three tires you listed on previous trucks. The Dueler Revo was fabulous in wet. It sucked horribly in dry. It was like the sidewall was broke and the tire literally fell over going around cloverleafs on the expressways. The set I had didn't go long as I thought they were dangerous. The Contis rode great, handled great, and picked up every nail or bolt on the road great. They didn't wear well either with a max mileage of 30,000 miles out of a set. For my mileage at the time, that was about an 8 month tire. Then there are the Michilin LTX A/T2's. There are 2 happy days in owning Michelin tires. The first day because they ride so great, handle like a dream, the world is at your doorstep they're so good. The second day is when you get rid of them. As they age, they are lot like concrete, gets hard as a rock. Handling is gone, wet traction gone, ride is gone, just rock hard tires. I've had 3 sets of them and have them on my Bronco now. They are the last set I'll waste money on. The only reason I've had the other 2 sets of them is because the last time I went to buy tires, they had the only 12.50/31/15 tires available. I run them on stock wheels which picks the corner bead of the tire up. That eliminates rock cuts to the sidewalls and doesn't effect the steering on the Bronco at all.
IF I were looking for a reasonably priced tire today for the Bronco that will run reasonable off roads, give me a decent ride, handle great in wet or dry, I'd be looking at the Yokohama Geolander A/T G015. I've had one set of these and they rode great, no road noise, handled great, and no sidewall cuts from rocks and no flats. I had them on an F150 Supercrew and really liked the tire. Might give them a look.
https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/geolandar-a-t-g015
BUT, if money is not an issue but ride and quiet are the goal, look at the Vogue Black SCT 2. I have these currently on my F150 Supercrew. Traction is like on rails, ride is magnificent. They are worth the money but they are not for anything off road except for gravel roads. They're going to have a soft side wall that won't work in rocks, cactus, etc. And when they say "black" these tires all but glow black. They are far and away the blackest tire I've seen. Looks really great on my white SCrew.
https://www.voguetyre.com/products/t...-v-black-sct2#
IF I were looking for a reasonably priced tire today for the Bronco that will run reasonable off roads, give me a decent ride, handle great in wet or dry, I'd be looking at the Yokohama Geolander A/T G015. I've had one set of these and they rode great, no road noise, handled great, and no sidewall cuts from rocks and no flats. I had them on an F150 Supercrew and really liked the tire. Might give them a look.
https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/geolandar-a-t-g015
BUT, if money is not an issue but ride and quiet are the goal, look at the Vogue Black SCT 2. I have these currently on my F150 Supercrew. Traction is like on rails, ride is magnificent. They are worth the money but they are not for anything off road except for gravel roads. They're going to have a soft side wall that won't work in rocks, cactus, etc. And when they say "black" these tires all but glow black. They are far and away the blackest tire I've seen. Looks really great on my white SCrew.
https://www.voguetyre.com/products/t...-v-black-sct2#
For all around driving, I really liked the Goodyear Wrangler All-Terrain Adventure with Kevlar tires I had on my '05 Screw. If I lived someplace with lots of snow (Ontario, Canada), I might want something more aggressive, but for occasional drift-busting, they were great. Good on the highway, good off-road, good for towing... I was very happy with them. Had I not sold the truck, I would have bought a set when the first ones wore out.
I concur with OP. I sorta think most "Reviews" are a bit rigged and not totally accurate. I have had most of every brand over the years.
Not rich & not even near a town. So value & usefulness overall is a real life priority.
Ditto the Mich. review...lol They used to be real good tires,the LTX. Would get 60-70k ez and go off roads. Not in ten years & 2 tries...
I am on my second set of Yokahamas now. The new Geolander X-AT this time.
NM roads are bad. Rural NM, almost nonexistant....lol
The 1st set of Geolanders were great in everything I drove,but my local gravel roads ate them quicker than I wished.2 yrs.Miles do not matter out here.
The new ones are very similar to the very popular Cooper Discover T-maxx in tread,but way less in cost.
The X-AT's ride great on or off pavement,work good in mud so far & everything but snow so far. They are very quiet for an AT.
2 months so far so good! lol
Not rich & not even near a town. So value & usefulness overall is a real life priority.
Ditto the Mich. review...lol They used to be real good tires,the LTX. Would get 60-70k ez and go off roads. Not in ten years & 2 tries...
I am on my second set of Yokahamas now. The new Geolander X-AT this time.
NM roads are bad. Rural NM, almost nonexistant....lol
The 1st set of Geolanders were great in everything I drove,but my local gravel roads ate them quicker than I wished.2 yrs.Miles do not matter out here.
The new ones are very similar to the very popular Cooper Discover T-maxx in tread,but way less in cost.
The X-AT's ride great on or off pavement,work good in mud so far & everything but snow so far. They are very quiet for an AT.
2 months so far so good! lol
My '07 FX4 came with Pirelli Scorpion ATRs P275/55R20 WOL tires, the OEM installed set went to over 50,xxx when I replaced them with … another set I bought from a fellow here on F150online. He worked at a UPS (or maybe Fed Ex) in Kansas City as I recall, he had replaced his with larger off road desert type tires I think, mentioned in a post he had the take offs, I sent him a PM, and a deal was made. I think his truck was a '09 or '10, I bought the tires in 2010. When they arrived, they had between 10 and 11/32nds so all were good, he had marked them LF, RF, LR, RR ..and I could feel tread and tell he was right.
At that time, new tires like them would have been $900 before taxes, etc., I had priced them just in case.
We exchanged Emails, he suggested I send a check just for tires ($200), then he'd send the tires, and then I could send postage ($157 I think) which he already knew. I just wrote the check for the whole $357, sent it and two days later, the tires were on my carport. Funny, I didn't hold back postage and he sent the tires before getting anything. I stored the tires until 2015 in my basement, my OEMs started cracking bad around the bead area & had worn somewhat so in 2015, I swapped to the stored set. They still have good tread, but two of these are cracking at the bead now, but they are easily over 10 years old.
Yesterday (11-08-19): I bought 4 brand new Pirelli Scorpion ATRs @ Discount Tire (new store opened about 25 miles north) and with on line discount, mount, road-force balance, taxes, total = $806.68. Today (11-09-19) I returned, we did some shopping nearby, and I got my tires mounted & balanced and they used clip on wgts inside and stick on wgts behind the spokes, and I gotta say, they are smooth at up over 70 on interstate & lower.
I got great service out of these tires since 2009, the OEMs went just a hair over 50K, I like the looks, I have a Subaru & '77F150 4x4 if need to go in snow (I'm retired now), besides …. in 31 years of a career with state police, driving in all kinds of snow,ice, rain, etc . I rarely ever needed chains on a RWD police car with open differential. I used chains in one storm in Dec 2010 with my CVPI. I used chains on time in 1993 on my Caprice when we had a blizzard. I used chains once in the early '80s on my '80 Plymouth. I used chains in about 1985 on a Caprice to get out of my driveway, but I took them off then when on the hardtop.
What can I say, I like these Pirelli Scorpion ATRs ….. They just happened to be on the truck when I bought it, I liked the looks …. and soon I found that I liked the ride & quietness & response.

I may not be trying a new or different tire, but on the other hand, I am putting my money on a tire that I know I like from my own experience, not just one someone else favors. I'd hate to put $800 on tires that I didn't like or that turned out "not satisfying".
I've read a lot of accounts of fishtailing in wet or snow, of long skids to stop, etc but funny thing is I never seem to have that problem …. but I can spot some on the road who do … or will shortly. As the sign on the wall at our academy said: " There's drivers & then there's steering wheel holders".
Last edited by tbear853; Nov 9, 2019 at 09:01 PM. Reason: Mounted & ballanced today



