You have to do all of them or none of them. If you leave a rubber hose anywhere in the system, it defeats the purpose of installing them.

 

Makes complete sense

 

Just an fyi to anyone considering the SS brake lines. I replaced the rubber lines on my truck Friday (flex lines) The rear lines are built into the metal line ... there was no thread. That would need to be replaced and then add in the lines. As a result, I could not change the rear flex lines. And there are an upper AND lower hose on each side out back and the long metal hose that runs across the axle.

 

Braided SS brake lines will only improve pedal feel (which could give you more confidence). If you short on cash the pads will have more performance improvements over the rotors.

 

For what it's worth, the OE rotors don't take turning very well. Mine were turned, I don't know the exact number anymore, but it wasn't by much, and very quickly afterward, they warped.

I have just ordered, and will install when they come in, the Powerslot drilled / slotted rotors and Metallic pad kit. I was debating between the metallics and ceramics, but lots of reviews were talling me the metallic pads worked better for towing / hauling.

 

Not true. Lines give you true clamping power.

 

I am going to try and see how much it will be to install the ss lines on my f150.

 

Where are you guys getting quality braided lines that are direct bolt ons?

 

Here is a good Q&A from Stoptech....

I understand the protection benefit, but can you explain the reduced expansion benefit?
Any time that an object is subjected to internal pressure, it expands. The amount of expansion will be
proportional to the amount of pressure present and the rigidity of the holding structure. In the case of brake
hoses, we are subjecting Teflon to internal pressures as high as 3000PSI. Because the Teflon is relatively
flexible (which makes it ideal for the job in one regard), it will expand under these conditions. This expansion
creates additional fluid volume in the hydraulic circuit which is felt by the driver as a soft or mushy pedal.
Rubber overmolding does little to reduce expansion under pressure, as rubber is also a relatively flexible
material. A woven braid of Stainless Steel, however, can greatly increase the rigidity of the hose under
pressure while still allowing adequate flexibility for wheel end movement. In many cases, this reduced
expansion can be felt by the driver as a firmer or more responsive brake pedal.
In addition, the reduced compliance will result in a faster transient response of the brake system. In other
words, the time from the driver hitting the brake pedal until deceleration is generated will be decreased by a
small amount. The benefit will vary based on each individual application, but in general overall deceleration
can be attained more quickly, resulting in slightly shorter stopping distances.
What impacts will SS lines have on my vehicle's P-T (pressure vs. torque) relationship?
None. Because brake lines and hoses do not affect the torque generated at the wheel end, the P-T relationship
remains unchanged when SS lines are installed. Only changes to a vehicle's caliper, rotor, or brake pad
coefficient of friction will impact the P-T relationship.
Well then, will SS lines impact my vehicle's P-V (pressure vs. volume) relationship?
Absolutely. Because SS lines are much less compliant than their OEM counterparts, the P-V relationship will be
reduced to some degree (less volume will be required at a given pressure). This is exactly the reason that a
car equipped with SS lines has a firmer brake pedal.
However, because the P-T relationship remains unchanged with SS lines, the impact to ABS, TCS, and other
brake control systems is typically negligible. Our own BBK kit testing indicates that most ABS, TCS, and other
brake control systems are robust to the small changes affected by the addition of SS lines. On the other hand,
testing at StopTech (and at major OEMs as well) has shown that while decreases in the P-V relationship
typically are invisible to SS lines, increases in the P-V relationship are not (as would be found with an
inappropriately-sized BBK).
In summary, because SS lines and a properly sized and balanced BBK only serve to reduce the P-V
relationship, we have time and time again demonstrated appropriate system integration with these products.
Our in-house testing allows us to make this statement for every platform we service.

 

Excellent write up...good come-back!

 

Absolutely false. In fact, it can mean the difference between life and death. - EASILY!

 

I know I had a Mustang one time that you absolutely could not lock the brakes up on it; and no, it did not have ABS. With no other changes but adding stainless brake lines, I could lock the brakes up. If that's not improved braking/clamping capability over "feel" then I don't know what else to say.

 

Go with Russel's. Whomever you get them from is most likely a middle man, - so they'll come from the factory direct. If they don't have your lines, they can make them up right away.

 

If you look at the adds in the back I most car/4X4 magazines, there's a shop I see all the time that run an add or custom lines. I've spoke to them a few times. He'll make whatever you want and price was on par with off-the-shelf stuff. Sorry, forgot the name.