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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 07:34 PM
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2004 Rotor Removal

Howdy!

New to the site & have a question. I replaced my daughters pads yesterday and was going to have the rotors turned but when I took the cotter pin and castle off, I was greeted by a spindle nut that said "one time use only"

Whats up with that? I tried to budge it with my giant channel locks and couldn't get it to budge although I didn't try to hard. It's the new model 2004 2wd.

Thanks in advance for advice.

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I searched on "wheel bearing" & got nada. However, I just read a question about this on a prevoius brake thread and saw that it needs to be torqued to 300 ftlbs. Don't think my 1/2 torque wrench goes up that high. Anyone no of a good source for these nuts and what size socket I need? I've got up to 1 3/8 & 32mm but I 'm guessing they are too small.
 

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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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You need a 36mm socket to fit that spindle nut. And yes, they do say "DO NOT REUSE" ON THEM. I believe they are about $40 each at the dealer, although you can get them cheaper in the aftermarket... The correct torque for them is 295 ft/lbs. My torque wrench only goes up to 250 ft/lbs, so I torqued them to 250 ft/lbs, then gave them an extra nudge.

And yeah, this isn't a job for the nifty channel locks. The job is best done with a suitable impact wrench...

But, on to a much more important point... These rotors must be turned using an on-car lathe. My understanding of the reason is that no free-standing lathes have the proper adapters for these rotors. The 2004+ 2wd front rotors have the bearing permanently installled in them. That's why, as you'll eventually find out, the prices for the front rotors are pretty steep. I think I paid just over $200 each at Napa for mine.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 10:27 PM
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You need a 36mm socket to fit that spindle nut. And yes, they do say "DO NOT REUSE" ON THEM. I believe they are about $40 each at the dealer, although you can get them cheaper in the aftermarket... The correct torque for them is 295 ft/lbs. My torque wrench only goes up to 250 ft/lbs, so I torqued them to 250 ft/lbs, then gave them an extra nudge.

And yeah, this isn't a job for the nifty channel locks. The job is best done with a suitable impact wrench...

But, on to a much more important point... These rotors must be turned using an on-car lathe. My understanding of the reason is that no free-standing lathes have the proper adapters for these rotors. The 2004+ 2wd front rotors have the bearing permanently installled in them. That's why, as you'll eventually find out, the prices for the front rotors are pretty steep. I think I paid just over $200 each at Napa for mine.
Thanks for the answers!

These trucks are new to me. I'm a regular on the Team Shelby Mustang site and I just finished a Saleen Blower install on my 2007 GT and I thought I would knock out the brake job in a couple of hours but then I started seeing "do not reuse" and couldn't budge the nut with the channel locks so I thought I better join a forum and ask.

The on car lathe makes sense with this arrangement but now I have to find someone who will do that. I may decide to go with new rotors. I put NAPA mid range metallic pads on so NAPA rotors ought to work well with them.

I bleed blue but I'm having a hard time understanding the reason for this design. Did they have a bad record with people not adjusting their bearings correctly?

Gee what happened to change a bearing if it goes bad or a rotor if it needs it but not having to change both together unless they both needed it?

Thanks again for the advice. BTW My daughter's F-150 is the first pick up in the family and I wouldn't hesitate to buy another. I can't believe Toyota is bragging about how tough their truck is and then put a C channel frame on it.....
 
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