MY point exacley feefer. Maybe the rules are diffrent at www.navigator online or www.mustang online but here at f150online all users "newbies" and "oldbies" all have the same rights. (To post on whatever they want to.)
If you didnt have a TRUCK then why would someone want to waste so much time on a TRUCK owners website? Just curious...............

 

Jwrape

That post from LightingGirl makes me sick!!! And you know all the people in this post Link are going through the same thing!

What really makes me mad is I just traded old 94 straight six 4X4 (best truck ever!!!) off for my new 5.4 4X4 because we are going to have kids. My old one didn’t have an extended cab for the kids we are planning on having in the next year or two. Now I read this and wonder how bad I messed up going from a truck that had another 7 years and 120,000 to go! Not only that, I used to get 16mpg city and 24mpg highway. And now am lucky to get 14/17. This is my 5th Ford and this problem scares the heck out of me!

I just got it in June of this year. Is it to late to take out the extended warranty through Ford?

I just feel for the people that have to go through this……. Just is not right!

 

Carmmond,

I feel for ya. I'm not sure if the 4.6L has the same issues with the spark plug blow out or not.
Although, I wanted the 5.4L, I didn't get one because of the mpg difference between the 4.6L and the 5.4L. I know it is only a 1-3 mpg difference, but I live in Atlanta where the Greater Atlanta Area stends from Alabama to Tennessee(I heard this on some news report). So 1-3 mpg is a lot of money to me every month. This is also why I drive the mustang 42 miles@20.6mpg to work and my wife drives my Expedition 12 miles@15-16 mpg.

In the area I live, I have to drive 8 miles to get to the nearest grocery store. I know that's not a lot for some, but it seems to be forever since it used to be 1/4 mile where I used to live. BUT the new house is 42 miles from work instead of 50. THat's a difference of 40 minutes compared to 11/2 hours. Save my sanity

 

Feefer,

I have no problem with you gathering information about the plug problem. The only problems I have had on this subject is some of the assumptions that have been made without any justification. I think it's great that you have put the time in to address this problem.

I have no affiliation with Ford. My only intention for some of these newbies was to advise them that doing a search can save them a lot of time and probably give them much more information than what they will receive in their new post. You say people are reluctant to use the search, but they shoudn't be. This forum is a library. From what I have observed is that people are reluctant to post answers to questions that have already been discussed, so a post will usually just die off. The search function is about as simple as can be, and it has saved me many times. Like I said, my only intention was to help these newbies seek out the information they were looking for. I didn't expect Toddyman to have an attitude about it.

 

Don't come on here giving me an attitude. I posted a message to use the search function as I knew this subject had been well discussed. If you choose not to do a search, so be it. You will only end up missing out on a lot of information that is readily available.

Don't tell me what the rules are and I never said anything about you having less rights. If you want to turn this into a personal attack, then go bark up another tree. Your attitude has already warned me to stay away from any of your threads. Try learning on this forum before you come on here and being a smart ***.

 

"I just got it in June of this year. Is it too late to take out the extended warranty through Ford?"

You have three years or 36,000 miles, whichever occurs first, to buy an ESP. Contact your dealer!

 

I am a service advisor at Ford dealership. I just had a customer come in on Friday with the #3 plug blown out. I have seen this a few times before. Other posts are correct, there appears to not be enough threads holding in the plugs. I have at my discresion
the use of After Warranty Adjustments from Ford. The only thing about that is there is a dealer participation involved, that's why we like to use it for our loyal customers. The great thing about P07 is that you get a powertrain warranty along with your repair. There is a cap at which we can authorize though.

I hit this guy with a $2900 estimate for repair. He was NOT a happy camper.

As long as Ford's keep breaking, I will still have beer in the 'fridge!

Later,
Dave

 

Now I'm worried, I only just recently bought my first Ford F150 and now I get this sinking feeling that I have just been screwed.. I keep hearing about the plugs blowing out and I can't help but think we're all doomed to pay that $4K it takes to fix it. ****, if I wanted to fork out that kind of money I shoulda bought a Hummer,, I have to make a trip to GA this month and I am thinking I need to rent a car instead of taking my truck... BUMMER,, and getting stranded a long way from home..


btw, 2001 F150 XLT 4X4, 5.4L, Loaded,16685 mi., no mods, (probably won't either saving for a new engine someday)

 

Goodlord, give me a break..... There are countless owners on here and elsewhere that are well over 100,000 miles without any problems at all. A very small minority on here has had problems with a plug blowing out and you've already decided you've been screwed and assume your doomed to pay $4,000 dollars for a problem you don't even have and furthermore are getting a rent car for a road trip you have to take because your afraid you'll be left stranded on a truck in perfect condition with less than 17,000 miles on it???? (lmao) If your THAT worried about it, go pickup an extended warranty for a grand. (Odds are you'll end up like the majority of us and never use it.) I'm at 92,000 miles and have not had a thing come up an extended warranty would have covered. No offense to anyone that has had the plug blowout problem, it's definately a problem I'd hate to be stuck with. But to sit around waiting and fully expecting it to happen to you? lol No offense, but I think some of you guys worry too much! What's the point it worrying about something you have no control over?

 

You've got a lot more to worry about crossing the street then you do about a plug blowing out......

Take the truck, have a great time and don't fret over things you have no control over. Heck, if this bothers you, wait until you read about the door cracks, oil leaks, rough idle, squeeky front end, "clunk" from the rear end, leaky rear window, rust in the doors and about another million or so 'issues' others have had.

I'm just giving you a hard time. When I first came here, I thought my truck was going to fall apart in the garage as I looked at it.........

Seems a bit daunting when you have a huge investment into a truck and hear about everyone else's problems...........

Like I said, the odds are with you that you will have a trouble free experience with your new truck. Just enjoy!

 

Naviman: Give an additude and get an additude; strange how that works.

You get bad recourse from a couple of people about the be-littling additude YOU displayed on repetive replys and now this is about me? BOW WOW at the base of YOUR tree.
This forum has no place for guys like you and if my expressing the fact that I for one dont like your additude towards people here (expecialy new ones) makes you want to steer clear of my posts then MISSION ACCOPMPLISHED!
Adios!

 

you guys need to look at this thread

https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...threadid=99500

 

Hi all,

Someone said they saw only 30 accounts here: well, I just saw SVTGirl's thread, and there are at least 3 more faithful f150online.com readers who didn't add accounts to my thread, or apparently didn't know it existed. My point? If even those who are here frequently don't necessarily know of the problem or list, then we're capturing an extremely small number of effected individuals.

Guys, the intent is not to make you paranoid, but to make you aware: listen for the impending warning signs of a blown plug, and DON'T delay. It may already be too late to avoid damage to those threads, but at least you won't be stranded (like I was).

The fact remains that the current design of the aluminum cylinder head threads on all 1986-current 4.6 and 5.4 F-150's, the Lightnings, Mustangs, etc, is is woefully inadequate, and hence part-and-parcel of owning these vehicles (like the F-150 door crack issue, window leak, etc).

Consider buying the ESP, and just hope any problem occurs before it expires (I bought the 4 year/75k ESP, and my plug blew only 6k, or two months, after it expired). Better yet, be disciplined enough to just stash the equivalent $$$ into a savings account every month, and then you'll be better off if nothing happens. If you got the run-around from Ford that some have gotten to get them to honor the warranty, you'll be glad to have the $$$ in your bank instead. Frankly, I doubt they'd have covered mine, even if it was under mileage, since I put a K & N air filter in.

On the bright side, it happened during the last week at my last job, so I had to rent a car for only about a week to get around. Damage was about $2,600 all told, for car rental and repair (that's just a helicoil insert after the head was removed). I had $$ in the bank, since I had been planning on changing jobs and wanted to have a cushion, but that's a real bad way to put a dent in your security cushion.

Ford hasn't publicly acknowledged the problem so far, and I don't expect them to do so unless forced by the NHTSA to issue a recall.

I'm going to sell my beloved 1998 F-150 when I can afford to, and am considering one of those new Saturn VUE (after doing some research). I've heard the 2004 F-150 has a deeper plug bore, but I can't risk waiting a year with this current helicoil.

Hey, DodgerDavn, I'm moving to the Central Coast this month to start a new job. I'll have to drive up and down the Cuesta Grade daily to Atascadero, and I don't want to risk a blown heli-coil heading up the Grade. I'm sure you know that section of road, so you know how bad that would be when trying to pass the longhaul trucks on the ascent.

Chris

 

What kind of warning signs can there be for a blown plug exactly? Isn't is jus ta stress fracture or stripping of the threads? That happens in an instance, not over time slowly wearing away.

Anyway, we are scaring newbies so much. Making people aware is fine, but causing them to think they have more than 0.01% chance of something happening is bad. How many millions of modular V8 engines have been built since its introduction (in 1992 or 1993 I believe)? How many have had such troubles we mention, a couple hundred, maybe 1000?

 

Not to minimize the seriouseness of the problem for those who have had it happen to their trucks, the actual percentage of plug blowouts, I would be willing to bet is well under 1%. We tend to hear more from the folks who have problems, not those who don't. Human nature! Believe me if my truck did this, I too would be after Ford for some sort of compensation. So far my 99 shows no sign of any problem. Hope it continues.