Could anyone tell me in thier own experience what is the best performace mod for a 4.6?? I have a few things done but want another 20HP or so is this possible with bolt on stuff?? How do the pullys Work??

 

HI!... REGALMAN : Go with a SUPERCHIP. It gives you about 25H.P on your 4.6 and will take you less than 30 minutes to install. These trucks really respond to "BOLT ONS". I've picked up about 70-80h.p with simple mods. Read my SIG below.

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NEAL " THE H.P FREAK" E-MAIL :nnewman@sympatico.ca
'99' F-150 XLT SPORT, oxford white, reg cab shortbox stepside,5.4, auto, 4.10L.S, captain's chairs, bedliner, GTS carbon fiber headlight covers, ***** CEPECK clear halogen driving lights, GTS slotted tailight covers (painted oxford white), fiberglass smooth wiper cowl (painted OXFORD WHITE), FORD locking lug nuts, tinted windows,true duel exhaust with 2.5 inch mandrel bent pipes and FLOWMASTER 3 chamber mufflers with 3' tailpipes exiting before the rear wheel like the LIGHTNING, HELLWIG rear stabalizer bar, 3 AUTOMETER guage pods, filled with tranny temp, engine temp, and oil preasure AUTOMETER "PHANTOM" guages,custom fabricated air intake trac and huge K/N filter, TPS mod, BELLTECH 2-inch rear drop, custom programed SUPERCHIP "FLIP-CHIP", BAUMANN ENGINEERING shift kit (on stage 5 setting)BYPASS CLUTCH CONTROL VALVE/PREASURE REGULATOR VALVE, ASP POWER PULLEYS, custom tig welded and ported JBA "JET BLACK coated headers, twin DERALE 16 INCH ELECTRIC FANS, PERMA COOL 14"/10" tranny cooler with 10" electric fan, custom ported (STOCK) throttle body, custom digital air intake temp sensor, custom ported TB intake elbow, relocated ATS, FORD RACING 24LB injectors, RUSSELL stainless steel braided tranny lines with fittings.


FUTURE MODS : BBK 75MM THROTTLE BODY, 80MM PRO-M MASS AIR METER, AADI F1 RAM AIR HOOD WITH CUSTOM FABRICATED RAM AIR SET-UP, CAL-TRAC TRACTION BARS, EXTRUDE HONED INTAKE MANIFOLD, SHM CUSTOM FUEL RAILS, 90/10 FRONT CE SHOCKS, 70/30 REAR CE SHOCKS, BELL TECH 2/4 DROP, EXPEDITION CENTER CONSOLE, HARLEY DAVISON F-150 LOWER FRONT VALANCE (painted oxford white) and a KENNE BELL BLOWZILLA SUPERCHARGER.

ESTIMATED H.P TO DATE : 340H.P / 425ft/lbs of torque.

CURRENT PERFORMANCE : 1/4 MILE - 14.53E.T * MPH - 93.00 * 0-60MPH - 5.8 * 1/8 MILE - 9.2 * 60 FT - 2.0

OTHER TOYS : "83" PRO STREET FORD RANGER : 351-w stroked to 408c.i 625H.P (natural), 875H.P with 250H.P "BIG SHOT" N.O.S kit, tubbed (crome moly tubing), 12 point chrome moly roll cage, 4-link with coil overs, MUSTANG II front suspension, c-4 tranny (race prepped), 4000rpm stall converter(8 INCH), 3" chrome moly driveshaft,AUTOMETER guages, 16.50 MICKEY THOMPSON rear tires, 4" M/T front tires, CENTERLINE CON-VO PRO rims, fiberglass hood - bumper - prostock hood scoop, wishbone trac-link, two chrome moly driveshaft loops, 16 gallon JAZ fuel cell,etc

 

#1 mod for the $$/HP/effort = Chip

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2000 F-150 XL, RC, LB, 5.4L, 4R70W, 3.55LS,
Class III tow, Payload #3, & Convenience pkgs.,
4-wheel disc/ABS, Chestnut/Parchment 40/60,
Ford bedliner w/Paintsaver & gas/wheel/spare locks,
K&N F.I.P.K. w/Outwears pre-filter, Superchip,
Dynomax ultra-flow welded 3" cat-back w/ 3" Y-pipe,
Hellwig front & rear anti-sway bars, Rancho RS 9000s,
Mobil 1, K&N oil filter.

 

My Superchip is the best mod so far, but the K&N exhaust system I just installed runs a close second and it sounds great. It took me about an hour to install.

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'97 F-150XLT extra-cab w/ 4.6L Windsor and auto.
Superchip!
K&N filtercharger
Jett underdrive pulley
mild shift kit
K&N cat-back exhaust
Future plans:
4.6 to 5.4PI head swap
Dynomax headers
supercharger (haven't decided which one, yet)

 

I would definitely go with the Superchip for the most bang-for-the-buck.
Elmo, how's that head swap coming along? I'm anxious to hear how it goes and what kind of improvements it is going to make. Be sure to keep us all posted!

[This message has been edited by SilverFlareSide (edited 04-10-2001).]

 

I like the K&N filter best. Gave me about 1 mpg in the city and highway. That was on my old 98 supercab 4x2 with a 4.6.

After that I would look into a cat-back exhaust system.

Why do so many people like the chip mods? It seems you would lose money on it due to having to use higher octane gas.

2001 F150 XLT flareside supercab sport
5.4, towing pkg, 4x2
http://members.home.net/deep6blue

 

deep6blue- The Chip gives approx. twice the HP per $$ of the FIPK and cat-back. The computer is the first place to add HP on a computer controlled vehicle. To get the added performance (performance was the initial question), the high octane gas is worth it.

 

regalman,

In response to the pulley question, they are a no brainer. They simply reduce drag and will work on just about any vehicle. I've seen tests with little 4 bangers picking up 5-6 HP and V-8s seem to average 12-15 HP.

Dollar for dollar, probably one of the best mods you can do.

 

So, if I went ahead and got the underdrive pulleys, would I be able to swap them myself? I am good at mechanics but, do I need any "special" tool to do this?

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2000 Silver XLT 4.6 Extended Cab

Stuff I've Got:
- ARE Z-series color matched cap (for my Rotties...)
- Flowmaster 40 series with Edelbrock oval tips
- Airaid intake system
- 500 watt sound system (Sony CD player, Lanzar EQ, Profile amps, Polk speakers, Kenwood subwoofer)
- Dropped 3/5
- Clear Corner Lenses
- Color matched Street Scene mirrors

Stuff To Get:
- 20" rims with low profile rubber
- SVT Bumber Cover
- Cervini's hood
- Supercharger

 

If you go with the underdrive pulleys will this affect the charging system. It seems there were some discussions on this a while back. I plan on getting these but should I leave the alternator pulley stock. Thanks

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1998 ext cab 4x4 4.6 auto
K&N Gen11, Superchip, fiberglass tonneau cover
Borla cat-back exhaust

 

Yes, you need a special tool to get the crank pulley off. i got the ASP underdrive pulleys and like them very well. Seems to wind up a little faster.

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97 4X4 Flareside
4.6 5-Speed
Superchipped
ASP underdrives
Airaid
Dynamax headers
Borla Cat-back
Clear corners
5% Tint All Around
285/75/16 BFG All terr.
16x8 AR Baha's
Rancho 9000's
4000K Bulbs

Soon to come:
F250 Superduty Extended cab, 4x4, with the 7.3L turbo deisel, silver with grey interior. It will go directly to the shop and get a 4" suspension lift and 35's.

 

Have any of you actually done a before and after dyno run on your Superchipped 4.6 or 5.4? Your truck will be quicker with the chip, mostly because of the transmission calibrations they perform (line pressure, torque converter lock up, shift point RPM). The chip itself will gain a max of 4-8 rwhp, that's it. I sell them, I install them, and I dyno them. Don't give me the eddy current dyno bit, all things being equal, the Dynojet dyno is the MOST accurate MOST repeatable dyno out there. You will see relative differencees, if you have more power from the chip, it the dyno will show you. I would not tune fuel and spark tables on an inertia dyno, but I will use it to see differences in mods. Why do 29 Nascar Teams use it?......hmmmm Superchips diesel programs DO put the advertised HP to the ground, but naturally aspirated gas engines w/ a Superchip, or any other chip,will only get you about a 3% RWHP gain. They are worth the money for the tranny features alone, any extra REAL power is a blessing. Not a flame, just my experience, and that includes 300+ dyno runs, mostly late model fuel injected Fords. I couldn't remain quiet, the dollar per rwhp ratio is what I know best. In fact, a pulley kit MAY (depending on the vehicle) produce more rwhp than a chip.

Later fellas,

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2000 5.4


Magnacharged
- 290 rwhp / 375 trq
- Custom TPS Superchip
- FIPK - fabricated by me
- everything else stock

 

HI!... ha,ha,ha,ha 8RWHP!!! All I know is that my truck dropped 6.3 tenths in my 1/4 mile times. 16.01 to 15.38. That was done on the same day, same track, same weather conditions. To be very honest with you guys, I never noticed anything different with my tranny shifting when I installed the SUPERCHIP. That's why I installed a BAUMANN ENGINEERING shift kit later on.

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NEAL " THE H.P FREAK" E-MAIL :nnewman@sympatico.ca
'99' F-150 XLT SPORT, oxford white, reg cab shortbox stepside,5.4, auto, 4.10L.S, captain's chairs, bedliner, GTS carbon fiber headlight covers, ***** CEPECK clear halogen driving lights, GTS slotted tailight covers (painted oxford white), fiberglass smooth wiper cowl (painted OXFORD WHITE), FORD locking lug nuts, tinted windows,true duel exhaust with 2.5 inch mandrel bent pipes and FLOWMASTER 3 chamber mufflers with 3' tailpipes exiting before the rear wheel like the LIGHTNING, HELLWIG rear stabalizer bar, 3 AUTOMETER guage pods, filled with tranny temp, engine temp, and oil preasure AUTOMETER "PHANTOM" guages,custom fabricated air intake trac and huge K/N filter, TPS mod, BELLTECH 2-inch rear drop, custom programed SUPERCHIP "FLIP-CHIP", BAUMANN ENGINEERING shift kit (on stage 5 setting)BYPASS CLUTCH CONTROL VALVE/PREASURE REGULATOR VALVE, ASP POWER PULLEYS, custom tig welded and ported JBA "JET BLACK coated headers, twin DERALE 16 INCH ELECTRIC FANS, PERMA COOL 14"/10" tranny cooler with 10" electric fan, custom ported (STOCK) throttle body, custom digital air intake temp sensor, custom ported TB intake elbow, relocated ATS, FORD RACING 24LB injectors, RUSSELL stainless steel braided tranny lines with fittings.


FUTURE MODS : BBK 75MM THROTTLE BODY, 80MM PRO-M MASS AIR METER, AADI F1 RAM AIR HOOD WITH CUSTOM FABRICATED RAM AIR SET-UP, CAL-TRAC TRACTION BARS, EXTRUDE HONED INTAKE MANIFOLD, SHM CUSTOM FUEL RAILS, 90/10 FRONT CE SHOCKS, 70/30 REAR CE SHOCKS, BELL TECH 2/4 DROP, EXPEDITION CENTER CONSOLE, HARLEY DAVISON F-150 LOWER FRONT VALANCE (painted oxford white) and a KENNE BELL BLOWZILLA SUPERCHARGER.

ESTIMATED H.P TO DATE : 340H.P / 425ft/lbs of torque.

CURRENT PERFORMANCE : 1/4 MILE - 14.53E.T * MPH - 93.00 * 0-60MPH - 5.8 * 1/8 MILE - 9.2 * 60 FT - 2.0

OTHER TOYS : "83" PRO STREET FORD RANGER : 351-w stroked to 408c.i 625H.P (natural), 875H.P with 250H.P "BIG SHOT" N.O.S kit, tubbed (crome moly tubing), 12 point chrome moly roll cage, 4-link with coil overs, MUSTANG II front suspension, c-4 tranny (race prepped), 4000rpm stall converter(8 INCH), 3" chrome moly driveshaft,AUTOMETER guages, 16.50 MICKEY THOMPSON rear tires, 4" M/T front tires, CENTERLINE CON-VO PRO rims, fiberglass hood - bumper - prostock hood scoop, wishbone trac-link, two chrome moly driveshaft loops, 16 gallon JAZ fuel cell,etc

 

Some food for thought with the numbers below. This 5.4 actually lost 5 rwhp when all was said an done. Hard to sell something when the tools you use to justify them tell the truth! BTW - some Dynojet owners fudge the correction factor by entering false values (dry bulb / wet bulb), the later WinPEP software doesn't allow you to do this (I use WinPEP) I'm glad you picked up 6 tenths, that works out to be about 60 HP doesn't it, come on Neal. Any Ford chip can alter your transmisson parameters, and most Superchip's programs do. With your increased power from other supporting mods, your chip calibration coud have used a little more tranny work (add'n custom charge from Superchips). Get your 340HP (estimated) truck to a dyno, most likely you'll find it to be about 210-218 rwhp tops. Not a flame here, I always value your input and dedication to your F150.


Name: DYNORUN.001
Title: Baseline
Run Date and Time: 8/31/2000 6:27:32 PM
Acceleration from 2000 to 5000RPM, interval = 250.00RPM
Absolute barometric pressure : 25.37 in.Hg.
Vapor pressure : 0.23 in.Hg.
Intake air temperature : 83.9 °F
Gear Ratio : 60.33 RPM/MPH
Correction Factor : 1.20 SAE
RPM POWER
2000 38.2
2250 113.5
2500 127.9
2750 143.4
3000 156.2
3250 172.2
3500 176.6
3750 184.1
4000 187.7
4250 186.9
4500 183.7
4750 176.2
5000 166.4


Name: DYNORUN.007
Title: Superchip DJJ3 Ign, Rev, Speed, Trans
Run Date and Time: 11/4/2000 11:30:16 AM
Acceleration from 3000 to 5000RPM, interval = 250.00RPM
Absolute barometric pressure : 25.61 in.Hg.
Vapor pressure : 0.24 in.Hg.
Intake air temperature : 55.0 °F
Gear Ratio : 60.61 RPM/MPH
Correction Factor : 1.15 SAE
RPM POWER
3000 160.5
3250 165.7
3500 172.9
3750 175.6
4000 175.7
4250 172.0
4500 166.6
4750 157.0
5000 144.8


Name: DYNORUN.011
Title: Removed CHip
Run Date and Time: 11/4/2000 11:44:28 AM
Acceleration from 3000 to 5000RPM, interval = 250.00RPM
Absolute barometric pressure : 25.25 in.Hg.
Vapor pressure : 0.14 in.Hg.
Intake air temperature : 68.7 °F
Gear Ratio : 60.61 RPM/MPH
Correction Factor : 1.18 SAE
RPM POWER
3000 165.9
3250 171.9
3500 181.7
3750 185.5
4000 186.2
4250 185.7
4500 182.9
4750 177.1
5000 166.4


Name: DYNORUN.016
Title: djj3 med chip installed
Run Date and Time: 11/4/2000 3:34:40 PM
Acceleration from 2000 to 5000RPM, interval = 250.00RPM
Absolute barometric pressure : 25.14 in.Hg.
Vapor pressure : 0.19 in.Hg.
Intake air temperature : 96.8 °F
Gear Ratio : 60.61 RPM/MPH
Correction Factor : 1.23 SAE
RPM POWER
2000 49.2
2250 119.9
2500 133.0
2750 149.0
3000 168.3
3250 165.3
3500 175.4
3750 179.7
4000 181.8
4250 179.1
4500 174.4
4750 177.0
5000 166.1


Name: DYNORUN.035
Title: Chip, DJJ3 RS, rev, speed, trans
Run Date and Time: 11/8/2000 8:12:00 PM
Acceleration from 2000 to 5000RPM, interval = 250.00RPM
Absolute barometric pressure : 25.20 in.Hg.
Vapor pressure : 0.13 in.Hg.
Intake air temperature : 51.2 °F
Gear Ratio : 60.66 RPM/MPH
Correction Factor : 1.16 SAE
RPM POWER
2000 51.7
2250 119.1
2500 131.8
2750 146.4
3000 161.0
3250 175.9
3500 178.2
3750 182.4
4000 183.3
4250 181.6
4500 178.1
4750 170.8
5000 159.6


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2000 5.4

Magnacharged
- 290 rwhp / 375 trq
- Custom TPS Superchip
- FIPK - fabricated by me
- everything else stock

[This message has been edited by White Trash (edited 04-12-2001).]

 

go with the chip that will be my next mod!

JIm

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97 4x4 Off Road Package 4.6l, Flareside S/C Dark Toreador Red
>17’wheels Bridgestone Dueler A/T’s
>True Dual Exhaust w/ 5’ tips
>Uniden XL510 CB
>Rear Blackouts
>Westin Stepbars (black)
>Lund Wiper Cowel
>Side Window Louvers
>K&N Filter
>Tinted Windows (5%)
>Ventshades
>Dual Antennas

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