Sorry, i know, but just had to jump in on this one.

Had 3 Ford Trucks, currently 99SC. BUT:

Hard to keep up with all the "irratic" stuff Ford is producing. Whats one to believe?

Some get the right radiator, some dont?

Some get a larger engine oil pan, some dont?

Some get piston slap, some dont?

Some get FQR engines, some dont?

Some get screwed and some dont?

All of a sudden, lighter weight oils are all the rage with Ford, etc. What gives??

Wished i could remember where i read how hard Ford (top dogs) worked to convince their engineers that lighter weight oils were best. I think theres more to this. On light oil, better MPG, etc? Emissions? (CAFE) I dont know?

Or, do these Triton (modulars) work best on lighter oil? You do know, there is no real long term track record on these motors. Hope
there right!

Of course, in super cold climates, lighter oils, well thats a no brainer. but these 0 wt. oils in hot weather??????

I use what Ford specs. are, but i have trouble with it. Dont like arguments,(when i know i could be wrong) so if i have an engine problem, (under warranty) aint gonna be because i used a wrong wt. oil!

For me, dont know if im going to stay with Ford. But, alternatives??

Sorry, "Just dont get it" Thanks OT

 

just fill the fricken engine to the fricken full mark 6 or 7 or whatever it takes dam it who gives a poopoo just fill it to full mark on the dipstick



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Oh, I remember what the thread was about, oils, not capacity! I totally agree, no 0w in the summer, but 5w? That's still low. I too thought the lighter weight would dirty faster during break-in, but I guess not with the extra large pan and the very tight tolerances. I think thinner oil will enduce piston slap more so than thicker oil, unless the tolerances are again very tight. Does anyone know of a test on these thin oils and the outcome? Hard use and milage versus oil viscocity breakdown?

 

Another thing. I use 10w30 year round.

 

Hey King James, was thinkin the same thing-

BUT still gonna wait to i find out why Ford specs. 5/30 for my 99 SC. Ford said why sometime back, but cant remember. It might a been when they first made tritons?

Seems specs. for 98 had a sliding scale, certain wts. for certain temperatures.

Times are a changin. Thanks OT

 

MAY 1999
TSB 99816
FORD MOTOR COMPANY NOW RECOMMENDS SAE 5W-30 VISCOSITY GRADE FOR SERVICING ANY FORD GASOLINE-POWERED VEHICLE REGARDLESS OF MODEL YEAR.

Use any oil that you wish but I will stick with 5W30 regardless of outside temp. I have run in the Dunes in 90°+ with 5W30 and no engine problems. Bet you that we will see a TSB with 5W20 one of these days

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier

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00 F-150 XLT SC Flairside 4x4 4.6 w/5spd 3.55LSD
Warn XD9000i, skid plates, Draw tite class III,
Rancho RSX Reflex shocks, MAC 8.8 Axle Girdle
BFG 285/75 R16 MTs,
Borla Cat Back, Hedman Headers,
Custom air intake system with modified
air box, Ported Throttle body,
Shortened MAF sensor tower,
K&N air filter,
Superchips

 

I use Amsoil 0W-30 (Series 2000). Daytime temps are 80F-90F all year round. Never had a problem with Amsoil yet in over 12 years. My only complaint is that it's expensive.

Oil capacity with filter = 6 qts



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'00 5.4L AUTO 4X4 Lariat (Black/Silver)
'02 F-350 PSD CC DRW 6SPD 4X4 Lariat (order this year)
www.hawthorn-engineering.com

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Hey Badd Andy

Well, what do you think so far? Your post is really starting to take off!

JMC Tks. for info. Now Ford "recommends" 5/30 in all engines. OK Sure glad i wasnt useing 5/30 in my F250 HD with 460.

Gah; Yeah, heard "Amsoil" was good stuff. Curious, how many years have you been useing 0/30 in your 5.4L "Triton"

Ummmmmmmm?? Again i say, sure hope FORD is right.

Have a good one. OT

 

We are dealing with multi grade oils and 0W30,5W30 and 5w20 are better for winter start ups, as we all know. But, did you know, the first number specifies the cold start weight of your oil and the second number specifies what the weight of your oil is when your engine is at running tempature. Also, some engine manufactures will show a graph showing what weight of oil is best at different ambient tempatures. In the summer I run 10w40 in the wifes vehicle because that weight of oil is best for warmer weather. Wonder why car manufactures don't include a break down of what engine oil is best at the ambient tempature your running. When I saw 5w20 as the manufactures recommended oil I thought, man, that can't be healthy in areas of the country where outside tempatures can reach 100 degrees, daily.

 

Call me CraZy but i just have a bad feeling ford wanted to use 5w-20 just to try and hide the piston slap.. I fear the piston slap has and is in ALL trucks, just some dont show it enough to notice.

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97 F150 Longbed V8 4.6
K&N air filter
K&N FIPK tech MOD & removed elbow silencer
Tires: Yokohama 265/75/16 Geolander AT+
Hyper white xenon bulbs
Bedliner and raven shell
6 disc cd changer
Oil & filter used

Gasoline used

My Truck

 

i'm not sure that I understand what the problem is in finding the 5w-20 oil..

my dad just bought a '01 mercury, and told me that he need to find the 5w-20 oil..

Wal-Mart has Motorcraft 5w-20 oil for $1.26/qt, and then I went to Pep Boys and found Pennzoil 5w-20 oil for $1.69/qt..

Where are people looking when they say that they cannot find 5w-20??

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'99 Ford F-150 Lariat SuperCab 4x4, ORP, 3.73 gears
5.4L Triton V-8
Deep Wedgewood Blue



MODS:

• K&N Gen II FIPK
• Fog Lights on w/Parking Lights

MODS TO COME:

• Gibson Dual Sport Truck Exhaust
• A.R.E. LSII Hard Tonneau Cover

 

i just take mine to walmart dont have to worry about it and its cheap.....cost about the same to buy the **** and take it hime and do it plus a lot less messy and takes less time.
jim

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97 4x4 Off Road Package 4.6l, Flareside S/C Dark Toreador Red
17’wheels Bridgestone Dueler A/T’s
True Dual Exhaust w/ 5’ tips
Uniden XL510 CB
Rear Blackouts
Westin Stepbars (black)
Lund Wiper Cowel
Side Window Louvers
K&N Filter
Tinted Windows (5%)
Ventshades
Dual Antennas

www.f150world.com/southernthunder

'Better a sister in a ***** house than a brother in a CHEVY'

 

This 01 owners manual is the first I've seen that does not have the temp scale for oil weights. Most of you guys have brought up good points that are in my mind too. Also, now thanks to Dateline I know how weak our bumpers are! At least there's no doubt about that!

 

OK, this pic is from the owner's manual. It is for ALL engines as you can see. 6 quarts *with* filter it is.




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2000 F150 Harley-Davidson: Superchip, K&N FIPK
Hard Tonneau, Hidden Hitch, 2-Meter Rig (KG0UK)
'99 FLHRCI, '95 XLH

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Hey Badd Andy

Whats matter with bumpers??? ouch eech ouch ouch ....... OT