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Old Jun 17, 2002 | 10:04 AM
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I don't care if you want to spend $10 a quart on Redline or $8 a quart on Royal Purple or $6 a quart on Amsoil or $4.50 a quart on Mobil 1 or $1.50 a quart on Castrol GTX. You'll get 150,000 miles out of your engine with the $1.50 oil with 3000 mile changes. What is the difference between a $10 synthetic and a $4.50 synthetic???? I don't think the differences are worth $5.50 a quart.......synthetics all have the same advantages so what are you REALLY gaining.
 

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Old Jun 17, 2002 | 01:36 PM
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Why do people disallow the testing results posted on the AMSOIL website?
I think in general we're just all too used to everyone claiming to be the best with some test claiming to prove so. I've yet to find a product claiming to be second best. Everyone claims to out perform the rest of the competition, and just about everyone has some test conducted either for or by the company claiming to prove there the best. I don't have the time to mess with it, but I'd bet I could find several oil companies claiming to have the best product available that will out perform the rest of the competition, all with some mickey mouse test designed to give there product the best results backing there point up.

Lets say for example there is 10 possible tests to measure the quality of oil. If an oil company can prove there product measured the best in 2 or 3 tests, there always in a hurry to post the results of the couple tests they performed well in while of course leaving out the rest of the tests they didn't perform well in. No different than marketing any product in today's world. Does that make them the best? Not necessarilly...

With that said, I have no question Amsoil, Redline and Mobil 1 are all very good quality oils. Period... We all use what we feel is the best, or atleast the best value for your money. I think Rick99 has a good point. With it being questionable that the benefits of synthetic are even necessary for our engines, what do you really think your gaining for your money? If some new super-duper magic oil kept a jet engine for NASA 1 degree colder vs Amsoil oil during take off, would you pay twice as much to put it in your F-150?
 

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Old Jun 17, 2002 | 02:42 PM
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Read the Directions

When you typically buy a product or service do you read the directions??

It you buy a cake mix do you just through it together and hope for the best??

What about a new computer program, or a product you are unfamiliar with???

As I have said Amsoil works as Advertised, if you can't understand that what is the problem??

No need to go through all of this pain and suffering, just look on the back of the bottle and read what it say's if you do that your oil changes with be 1/2 the cost of ANY other oil on the market today.

Will your vehicle go 150,000 miles if you follow the directions, it sure will. Probably go 300,000 and more. Will you have a warrenty to back you up. Sure will.

I really think that this thread is pointless, people are on here not because they want the best or even the second best. They are on here because they want to Bash someone else or something someone else say's. Face it!!!

What is the best?? As I have said before, the best what? The cheapest, most cost effective, best performance?? who knows, now a day's you have so many to chose from, they are all good. That is what competition breeds--excellence.

What is BEST????

FORD, CHEVY, DODGE, TOYOTA, .....

Without one we would not have the other.
 

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Old Jun 17, 2002 | 02:49 PM
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Re: Read the Directions

Originally posted by msparks
When you typically buy a product or service do you read the directions??

It you buy a cake mix do you just through it together and hope for the best??

What about a new computer program, or a product you are unfamiliar with???

As I have said Amsoil works as Advertised, if you can't understand that what is the problem??

No need to go through all of this pain and suffering, just look on the back of the bottle and read what it say's if you do that your oil changes with be 1/2 the cost of ANY other oil on the market today.

Will your vehicle go 150,000 miles if you follow the directions, it sure will. Probably go 300,000 and more. Will you have a warrenty to back you up. Sure will.

I really think that this thread is pointless, people are on here not because they want the best or even the second best. They are on here because they want to Bash someone else or something someone else say's. Face it!!!

What is the best?? As I have said before, the best what? The cheapest, most cost effective, best performance?? who knows, now a day's you have so many to chose from, they are all good. That is what competition breeds--excellence.

What is BEST????

FORD, CHEVY, DODGE, TOYOTA, .....

Without one we would not have the other.

Nicely Put.............I'll stick with my Amsoil which I can get a NAPA just down the road.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2002 | 09:27 PM
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A question is a quetion. People ask questions because they are interested in finding somthing out, to be well versed, to be educated in other's experiece. I started this thread as a curiosity with the hopes of finding out what others think and what they themselves use in their engines. I chose redline oil because my buddies from United Airlines, who are mechanics, all use it in their trucks and have no problem going 18,000 mi. without an oil change. It also saves me money, changing oil every 3,000 mi. costs me $30 - $45. why pay that when I can pay $50 and have it last all year?
It just seems that some like to be overly critical of others opinions. Everyone is right, there is no difference in oil for our purposes but we all care for the well being of our trucks.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 05:47 AM
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Originally posted by mf150
People ask questions because they are interested in finding somthing out, to be well versed, to be educated in other's experiece. I started this thread as a curiosity with the hopes of finding out what others think and what they themselves use in their engines.
Everyone is right, there is no difference in oil for our purposes but we all care for the well being of our trucks.
I agree, but it always starts out good then turns into a pissin match.

My advise to you is to get oil analysis done. I'm sure you mechanic friends probably know about this. Do that a few time. If you don't like what you see, switch oil's. If you like what you see, then you are doing the right thing.

If you need help reading the analysis, give me a call. My number is on my website.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 07:30 AM
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I use Valvoline Durablend semi-synthetic 5w-30 oil. (cost= $2.49 qt). I don't think a full synthetic is necessary because you won't get much benifit paying $5-$7 per qt. for oil. I think all this oil talk is a bunch of hype. If you use a quality certified oil and change it every 3000 miles, you'll get 150,000 miles out of your engine whether you use synthetic, semi-synthetic, or base-dino oil. So what's all the talk about. That's all it is, TALK.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 08:23 AM
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Originally posted by East TN F-150
I use Valvoline Durablend semi-synthetic 5w-30 oil. (cost= $2.49 qt). I don't think a full synthetic is necessary because you won't get much benifit paying $5-$7 per qt. for oil. I think all this oil talk is a bunch of hype. If you use a quality certified oil and change it every 3000 miles, you'll get 150,000 miles out of your engine whether you use synthetic, semi-synthetic, or base-dino oil. So what's all the talk about. That's all it is, TALK.
Seems what you are doing is all TALK, where are your oil analysis to back that talk up. That is all I'm askin. If you would at least do one after your 3,000 mile oil change then we have something.

Here is a chart of some analysis with different oils that we did on a BMW message board. This at least shed some light on drain intervals, engine performance and oil's performance.

http://www.retake.com/oilchart.htm

I'm not trying to be mean or nasty, I just want to hopefully show you people that the Hype and Talk is put out by the large oil manufactures to promote the 3,000 mile drain interval.

WHY? BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SELL YOU MORE OIL
 
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 01:09 PM
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That's just my opinion. Take it for what it's worth.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 02:24 PM
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What is the purpose of doing an Oil Analysis on a personal vehicle? Not much you can really do if the results are good and bad. Just another added expense.......I never had an Oil Analysis done and I got over a quarter of a million miles on my last engine.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 02:40 PM
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I've never heard of doing an oil analysis on engine oil until I read this thread. I guess more people are peticular than others.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 03:15 PM
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Sheesh! Sorry for the double posting but I had a few corrections to make in my last post. How do you do an oil analysis? It seems interesting.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by East TN F-150
Sheesh! Sorry for the double posting but I had a few corrections to make in my last post. How do you do an oil analysis? It seems interesting.
I think Jiffy Lube can do it.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by Rick99
What is the purpose of doing an Oil Analysis on a personal vehicle? Not much you can really do if the results are good and bad. Just another added expense.......I never had an Oil Analysis done and I got over a quarter of a million miles on my last engine.
Rick, it seems that you are comfortable using the oil you have chosen. Some folks that would just like to know. If if they are leary about extending oil drains, an oil anlaysis would give them piece of mind.

Yes it is an added expense, but for $14 isn't it kind of facinating to see how the oil is performing in your very own piece of equipment??
 
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by East TN F-150
Sheesh! Sorry for the double posting but I had a few corrections to make in my last post. How do you do an oil analysis? It seems interesting.
Just about any heavy duty equiment shop should have oil analysis. also alot of the Major oil distributors should have analysis available.
 
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