Conocoan:

Excellent post...Mark

 

Do you base every comment on cheap comebacks?
Im also very happy you find your little comments so funny as you roll on the floor laughing your F@#$ing a$s off

thats so orignal!

Bottom line dont want to argue with you anymore it waste both of our time.

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97 F150 Longbed V8 4.6
K&N air filter
K&N FIPK tech MOD & removed elbow silencer
Hyper white xenon bulbs
Bedliner and raven shell
6 disc cd changer
Oil & filter used

Gasoline used

Mr.T'z van


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roflmfao @ puppy-man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I agree 100% with your statements on the filters.

As far as synthetics not breaking down, I think that isn't always the case. On my last truck (4 banger import) I tried synthtics. Mobil 1 and Amsoil. The truck never leaked and yes I've heard all about it might leak with synthetic due to better flow, blah, blah. The Mobil 1 didn't leak in two years of changes. The Amsoil would seep at the front main seal, but ONLY after about 3000 miles on it. New Amsoil didn't leak a drop. Trying to convince me it doesn't break down before change intervals would be a waste of time. Dino oil didn't even leak at 3000 miles use......

Doorslammer69,

Did you just recently become a *****, or have you been at it for years?


Msparks,

It's nice to see the actual facts and data you give. Would you have any explanation to the seeping? My local dealer used a lot of smoke and mirrors to avoid the question. BTW, I'm not claiming Amsoil isn't good stuff, just stating that my experience leads me to believe that it DOES break down.



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signmaster: Glad to see ya spelled the name right...

 

Mans oil?!?! Doesn't sound like anything I will be putting in my truck. LOL!

Besides why would I want to put an 0W30 oil in my truck and run it well beyond what Ford recommends, both of which will void my warranty? It may be a great oil but, I would rather avoid trying to convince Ford of that, especially with the piston slap problems going around.

 

110,000 miles on truck, 107,000 miles using Amsoil 0W30 & NEVER a piston slap problem, no leaks & it doesn't burn a drop. Will change oil & filter this week & happily go another 10,000 miles before I change again. Be kind to your truck, like I am, to mine...Mark

 

Amsoil is marketed by a pyramid sales organization named Amway. The only people here I have ever heard rave reviews from are those with a vested interest. I used Mobil 1 10w30 synthetic oil in a 87 F150 and put 250,000 on the original 300 CID 6 with never an engine problem. The engine has 300,000 miles on it now with no problems. The absurd claimed Amsoil oil change intervals would void any warranty. Why would I go with some absurd change interval when Mobil 1 has served me well with 5000 mile oil change intervals. Even conventional oils nowadays are so high quality, there is no reason why 200,000 miles+ can't be achieved from any engine. Buy Amsoil and after everyone in the Pyramid has taken their cut, and add shipping you've been screwed.

 

Amsoil is NOT owned by Amway!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

doorslammer69,

This question may or may not stir up more cr@p (really hope not ), but I am really curious because I am thinking about Amsoil.

Did you become a dealer after using Amsoil primarily to get better pricing? I didn't look at pricing after buying the 6 or 12 month "membership" but for roughly $100 retail for a case of Series 2000, about 25% off is worth the $10 or almost worth $20 for the membership. I assume that becoming a dealer has a little more involvment. Maybe something like Tupperware, MaryKay or Amway, (no pokes intended )

I just sounds like it would make sence to become a dealer, to get good pricing.

One more for anyone else, what about this vicosity thing? I know Ford requires other F series as well as Expy's to use 5w-30 so has anyone gotten feedback from Ford about using a 0w-30 like the Series 2000?

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2000 Eddie Bauer Expedition 4x2

• Estate Green
• 5.4 ltr
• 3:55 LS rear
• Superchip!
• Airaid FIPK
• Gibson S/S Swept Side Cat Back Exhaust
• Tow Package
• Rear Load Leveling
• Moonroof
• Century Child Seat!

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Bet'cha would be singing a different tune if you had PS and Ford blamed you for not using the correct weight oil.

I had 134000 on a 3.0 Ford and ran nothing but conventional with no leaks and no oil usage. Ran like a top when I got rid of it.

Currently using Mobil 1 in my truck and have not experienced any of the "engine smoothing", "MPG increase" or "power increase". Just had to try it though to see what all the fuss was about

On another note, went to Home Depot last night and carried home over 1300 pounds of concrete and about 300 pounds of fencing material in one load. Other than the truck squatting I couldn't hardly tell the weight was there, plenty of power

 

WOW, 2 posts between the last one I read and the I was answering, sh*it happens fast around here

 

Hello Signmaster,

I would be very interested to hear of your experiences with synthetics breaking down early. I have been running synthetics for about 11 years now with zero complaints but that’s with Mobil 1 and changing it every 4,500 to 5,000 miles. I am about to switch to Amsoil and am planning on a series of oil analysis to keep tabs on the oil. I will most likely change the oil and filter at 6 months, which will be about 8,000 miles. Warranty is of no relevance as my truck has 31,000 miles on it now. I have read all the rave reviews about Amsoil and extended drain intervals but if anyone knows of anything to the contrary, I’m all ears.

Rick99,

I agree that any oil will take a modern engine to 200,000 miles with 3,000 to 5,000 mile oil changes That’s not the issue with me. It’s time. I am maintaining three trucks; two 4-wheelers, one tractor, 1 lawnmower, and one boat with a small block chevy. (Don’t tell my truck about the chevy!) I would rather spend my time doing other things besides changing oil but, not at the expense of my engines longevity.

And, shame on Msparks and Doorslammer69 for clouding a perfectly good argument with facts.

Just joking. But really, I’m just looking for real life experiences to help make my decisions, not emotions or memories of how my Grandfather maintained his equipment.

Cheers!

 

Conocoan: THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FamilyRide: Contact me via email at sundayniagara@hotmail.com, or sundaaayniaaagaraaaa@yahoo.com, or on msn messenger at hotmail address for further discussion on this subject...Mark

 

Conocoan,

Simply put, when I used Amsoil it was causing a leak after approx 3000 miles of use. The leak wasn't present when the oil was new, and never happened with other oils. Obviously something was taking place within that time frame. The local distributor couldn't explain it other than to offer that it must be caused by oil contamination due to blow by. If this was true, then obviously the other oils weren't affected by this "problem".

The conventional oils used in the vehicle were Castrol or Penzoil, the other synthetic was Mobil 1. Mobil 1 and Amsoil filters were used with all oils.

I have a friend who had a similar experience. We were talking about it and decided to try an idea. He is a painter by trade and suggested we take some timings with a viscosity cup. The oil from his bike only had about 2000 miles on it when he drained it. It flowed quicker through the cup than the new Amsoil did.

We quickly concluded that this didn't prove squat, that all oils must change somewhat after use. So he kept the times in his toolbox. At the next change with conventional oil he did the same thing, comparing new to used. The change in the flow of the conventional oil was actually less than the change in the Amsoil.

I don't know if oil analysis would show any problems like this. I'm not against synthetics, my experience with Mobil 1 was good. I won't try Amsoil again unless someone can provide a logical answer to the problem I encountered; then MAYBE.