I use the same one as lightninrod and have since the truck had 1,000 miles now almost 200,000 miles later. A 5.4 with piston slap since 12,000 miles moble one 5/30. The amsoil guy's that know the company's spew make me sick they all got the same answers only amsoil or nothing. Why would a oil maker want your oil too last longer.most want you to change at 3,000 miles what a waste!

 

Real trucks don't wear no stinking bowties!!!

 

Yeah I said bowtie...got a problem with that? I also own Fords, and plan on replacing my "bowtie" with another Ford in a few years. Got a problem with that? Im trying to be a productive member here...maybe you could do the same?

 

Whoa!!! Did I strike a nerve? No, I don't have a problem. I stated my opinion. Apparently you do have a problem with that!!

Sorry that your feathers got ruffled, but a Chevy owner posting on a Ford site should expect a few jabs...don't you think so??

I checked your profile before poking a little fun at you. It says nothing about owning a Ford just tells about your Silverado.

Glad to hear you are switching to a Ford. Apparently you agree with me...Real trucks don't wear bowties!

 

hey goob, did I say anything about Amsoil or nothing.

I'm pointing out that there isn't an oil manufacture that recommends using a aftermarket additive with their oil.

Amsoil will not honor their warrenty if you are using aftermarket additives. Period.

But of coarse everyone has their own opinions, and you are more than welcome to share them!

 

U struck a little nerve...u just came off a little strong is all with the " " and all. Its just that if I poke fun at someone I might " " or " " Yeah I can expect a few jabs and dont really have a problem with it other than the fact that it didnt really belong in here. If I was defending my Chevy and saying that it is better than any Ford out there then I would expect it.

Anyhow no harm no foul...Im not gonna hold anything against you and hopefully you feel the same. Oh and by the way...my bowtie is a real truck. It gets a workout (like pulling around a 11,000 pound fertilizer tank trailer in 100 degree heat) quite regularly. It has never missed a beat! 166,000 miles and it still runs like new. Has needed nothing more than normal maintenance items. There are alot of Fords that would do just the same...with the exception of my previous truck. Oh well.

Just my .02 Hope thats ok with you all!

 

MN4x4 ==

No hard feelings for sure! I was just trying to have a little fun. That's all. I love my Ford truck and Chevy makes a quality product too. We really don't have much to disagree about. Guess I should have paid more attention to the icon I used -- Sorry.

 

I hope you're not implying that I'm not a good mechanic because I disagree with you (and everyone else here). I love Slick 50. The reasons aren't important, because I'm not about to try and convince someone else to use it, but I swear by it. I don't care what tests you show me, or which experts you quote, I've seen first hand what it can do, and I add a quart every 50k miles in every vehicle I drive and service. It also has helped many of my "friends" (funny how when their cars have problems, we're suddenly old friends) get a second chance at performing regular oil changes. I can think of 20 times off the top where I've seen it free up sticky lifters and quiet down noisy engines. What I've never seen are any negative effects from it's use, and that includes 300k - 500k hard miles on most of the fleet vehicles I service. As far as me not being a "good mechanic", I'm sure that's not what you meant. I own my own repair business, and have been turning wrenches for 20 years. I've been ASE certified for 15 years, and have worked in both stock car racing (NASCAR) (worked for Bill Elliott in '98) and Sprints. In fact, the team I currently crew for won the VRA Sr. Sprint Car Championship this past season (I think it sucks that we have to buy our own Track Champions jackets (just found out yesterday it's going to cost me $125 for mine!), but it's a priviledge only my team has this year). I've taken at least 6 years of college automotive classes in the past 20 years, and done just about everything at least once.

And I still swear by Slick 50. I'm not saying it doesn't have any negative effects, because you obviously believe it does, but I have never seen a single one.

I'll tell you a funny story. About 10 years ago, my personal garage at home was turning into an engine block depository. I had at least 20 blocks in there at all times. Most were junk, and were just waiting for me to take to the iron works in the next town over for "recycling". When space was at a premium, I ended up mounting a bench grinder ontop of a 403. It ended up staying there for 2 years. During that time, thousands of things were ground, cleaned, stripped, and polished at that bench grinder, and several pounds of compound, wire bristles, aluminum oxide dust, metal shavings and just about everything else, were spread out over the 403. I'm sure you know how much debris a bench grinder creates in 2 years. Well, the day finally came when I had a truck with an empty bed, and a couple friends to help, and I moved the remaining blocks out of my garage. The 403 still had the crank in it, and I removed it before loading them in the truck. I was astounded by how slippery the bearing surfaces were. They were "slicker" after 2 years under the bench grinder than normal engines are in the vehicle. I rubbed some of the residue between my fingers, and knew right away it was Slick 50. I hadn't realized it until I stopped and thought about it, but that block had been in my nitrous injected Buick, and met an untimely demise due to someone dropping a nut down the intake during a test session with a Predator. The ensuing damage cracked the block in a cylinder. As soon as I knew it was Slick 50, I checked the cylinders, and it was my old block.

I guess you had to be there, but you're probably glad you weren't.

Anyway, I'm sure that nobody recommends adding it to their product. After all, when was the last time you heard a manufacturer recommend something someone else made? Still, I'm sure you all are right and I'm wrong, and the fleet vehicles will probably have some terrible problem, like a deteriorated pan gasket, when I give them their 600k mile service. But I'll tell you, United Van Lines is thrilled to be getting 600k miles out of some of their Ford cargo vans. Not bad for 6000 mile oil change intervals (not my choice). FWIW, I use only Mobil 1 in my vehicles, and change the oil and filter every 3k to 4k miles, and I add a quart of Slick 50 every 50k.

The old timers around here are quick to point out that not that long ago, Slick 50 cost $50 a quart, and people were glad to spend it. I have no confidence in any of the Slick 50 wanna-bees, nor any desire to try them. To me, they are just trying to eat away at Slick 50. Whatever.

I'll make you guys a deal: You don't try and convince me to stop using Slick 50, and I won't try and convince you to use it. We can just agree to disagree.

Take care,
-Chris

 

Use conventional oil and change it every 3000 miles. Most if not all experts say 5000 miles is the new oil change interval, that is what I switched to. Additives NO...Synthetics If you want to waste money.:o

 

The US Government did an extensive study on Slick 50 several years ago and determined that it actually did more harm than good. The reason for the study was to determine if it should be used in military vehicles and fleet vehicles. Bad News, ask anyone that has torn down a high mileage motor that used that garbage and they'll tell you it's nasty.

I would imagine that you could search the internet and find that document if you spent some time searching. Like I said I found it 5 or 6 years ago when I was trying to determine if I should use an additive.

Shane

 

PKRWUD I would bet your results are due to the use of Mobil 1 and the 6000 change interval. The Slick 50 had nothing to do with it. There is nothing special about Slick 50. It is just plain old oil with TEFLON in it. Dupont (the manufacturer of TEFLON) said themselves that it would offer no benefit and should not be used in an engine. That is good enough for me. They are the chemists that created it and know how it works. This has been proven by many tests from Universities and independent test labs (unbiased) as well as competitive product test labs (biased obviously). The PTFE (TEFLON) just floats around and is drained out when you drain the oil. Your engine does not get hot enough to bond it to anything and the larger particles are just trapped by your filter. I know you won't be convinced and Slick 50 appreciates your business and everyone else that believes it does something. It probably won't hurt anything unlike some of the Chlorinated products that turn to acid and eat away parts like Prolong and DuraLube.

 

I've torn down dozens. Like I said, i am yet to see any negative effects. I'm not doubting you. I'm just going on my own personal experience. Let me put it this way: say you went outside for a walk around the block, and it was nice and sunny, and felt great. You tell your wife about it when she gets home, and she says you're nuts because it rained all day. You are positive it wasn't raining, but she insists it was. She even goes as far as to turn on the evening news and show you the weather report in which they state it did in fact rain all day. Yet, you still know for a fact that it didn't rain when and where you went for your walk. Who's right? You both are. She wasn't with you, and can't dispell your personal claims, but she can make an educated statement based on her experience, as well as that of a well known weatherman. That may not be the best analogy, but it's as close as I can come. No one convinced me of Slick 50's worthiness. No one gave me free bottles and stickers, or t-shirts or calandars. I swear by it because I've seen it work, and, more importantly, because I haven't seen it fail.

Norm-
I have no doubt that the Mobil 1 and regular oil changes have a great deal to do with the longevity of the vehicles I service, but I am equally convinced that Slick 50 plays an equal role as well. I've always used Slick 50 in my customers vehicles, and have always gotten long lifespans from them, but never more than 400k without the need for a complete overhaul. Now that I am also using Mobil 1 with these vehicles, 500k is common, and I've got 6 vehicles that will hit 600k by March. If that's how Slick 50 screws up engines, it's got my blessing.

Again, I truly believe all of you. I'm not saying any of you are wrong, I'm just sharing with you why I still love Slick 50. The very day that it causes me any damage or inconvenience is the day I'll stop using it, but until then, I'll remain a happy camper.

Take care,
-Chris

 

PKRWUD, like I said I do not think it will do any damage to your engines either just to your wallet, but the fact remains that any properly maintained (as you are well aware) vehicle with Mobil 1 or any quality oil will give you long life. There are stories everywhere about million mile vehicles and long lives like you have experienced. If you spend hard earned money for your truck there is no excuse for not maintaining it properly. On todays vehicles the engine is usually the last thing to die if properly maintained (oil changed regularly, coolant flushes, etc). The rest of the vehicle usually falls apart around the engine. If a 20 dollar bottle of oil with bits of teflon in it gives you piece of mind every 50K I don't have a problem with it. Doctors give out placebos for the same reason. Mind over matter, if you don't mind it don't matter. Facts are facts and opinions are everywhere. Think about this, if it was hot enough in your engine for the Teflon to bond to anything it would melt off of your non-stick frying pan which is hotter than your engine ever gets.

 

PKRWUD, nice website! I always liked Bill Elliot as well. Nice G4. I was an Amiga man myself, still have my 4000. Too bad Commodore screwed that up.
Norm

 

My Supercrew will get an oil change/filter every 10.000 miles (thats 3/4 times a year) I use Vavloline 5-20. Modern engines using modern oils, regular multi-grade or synthetics do not need 3.000 mile oil changes. I change the oil in my motorcycles at 1500/2000 but only because they are running on un filtered air.
I know why you do it, but you are wasting money. It's pointless using the best oil you can buy and only keeping ot in the engine for 3000 miles. My last car, a BMW, got oil changes at 12.000 miles. It used shell Helix semi-synthetic. I did 140.000 miles in three years, and the car was as good as new in every department. Each cylinder was compression checked, and was still within limits for a new engine. At 90.000 miles, gas mileage was still improving. Thats all the proof I need to know that modern oils/filters will do the the job for longer than you think.
Hughie