Hi guys new here great site. FYI procharger will be offering a 8 psi supercharger kit for all 97 to present f150s both 4.6 and 5.4 It will feature a billet impeller and a selfcontained oil system in which you can change the oil yourself. This means no drilling the oil pan. Easy to remove if warranty work is needed. It will also have a 2 core air to air intercooler. I think these are going to be very good kits. Unlike the powerdyne I had on my 97 f150 piece of S#*T The procarger kit on a 97 expedition with the 235 5.4 ran mid 14's. I will be putting on of these kits on my 00 f150 5.4 black sport reg cab short bed. Oh by the way they will sell for around$3,200 and have a 55 to 60 percent increase on your triton.....

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hi kevin 3636 here.i am thinking about the power dyne for my 1997 4.6L.was the supercharger a piece of shi* or was the truck the piece of shi* in all.my runs great,i have headers,exhaust,ignition jacobs,power aid t-body spacer,and a superchip in the brown piece of shi*,I'm allways late UPS.let me know what you think about the power dyne,and hoe much you paid for it. THANKS KEVIN 3636

 

i just saw your reply on my post.you most have been doing it as i was posting on yours.any info helps out.what was the reason they gave you for the problems.

 

Hi kevin They told me the first set were the old stye bearings? I said old didn't you do testing on these? So I had to wait almost 2 months to get it back. And had to pay alot to ship it. They told me it would get updated ones now. I said o.k. great. Them about 3 months later I heard the bearings go out again and had to send it in again. I was pissed. I have biuld cars and trucks for a while now and don't suggest getting this kit. I think the over all quality is very poor. Also the pulley that fits into the new harmonic balancer was uneven and had to have it machined. I have no complates on my truck not one problem. Just traded it in at 65,0000 miles for a 00 f150 that I orderd.

 

i guess i have to do more research into power dyne.who is fyi procharger,and what is their phone# or web site.what kind of numbers on horse power do they say they can make.i know ati procharger 909-941-6646# have a system coming out in two to three months.i haven't seen any numbers on it or a price.my truck moves out good right now,for a truck.but i like the best of both,speed and 4x4 off road.

 

Hey kevin, I think 'fyi' meant 'for your information' !
Frank,how did you like the overall performance of the powerdyne, other than the bearings and balancer? What makes this procharger better than any other charger?
Give us the run down if you know.

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97 F150 4.6 XLT, Ext. Cab,Black/Grey, 6in. lift w/spindles and A-arms, Am. Racing 'Baja' wheels w/Goodyear 305's,Dynomax cutoff,Speed Grille,Pioneer deck and changer

 

Wow you must have got stuck with a lemon.
I have had know problems with my Powerdyne.
However that ATI Procharger sounds sweet. I will have to look into one of them when they come out, Maybe sell the Powerdyne. I do still think the Powerdyne is just as good of kit as any. I was at first going to go with the Vortec but did not want to drill holes in my oil pan. But for the $1900 I paid for the Powerdyne I could not beat it.

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97 F150 SC 4X4 4.6
Powerdyne supercharger
Gibson Catback
JBA Headers
Ford Motorsport 9MM wires
Superchip
JLL Stealthbox
Rockford Fosgate punch 45 to drive stealthbox

 

Hi roadrage Well the performance was o.k. as you know centrificals don't develop boost down low where these trucks need it. I would get about 5.5 psi at red line or shift points. And maybe around 1.5 to 2 at 2800 rpm's. Why prochargers kit will be so much better? Well let's start with the blower itself industrial strenght bearings to say the least. Billet impeller very very strong material. Twice a strong as cast aluminum impellers. All of prochargers blowers are built to last and have never heard of one failing. Let's talk about the air to air intercooler. Are you looking to pump boost and hot air into your engine or just boost. Heat eqauls less horse power. Ruffly around 1% loss for every 10 deg. increase. With a intercooler you will never have to worry about that deadly detination. Thats what blows head gaskets and piston failure. In comparison a vortech s-trim at 8 psi makes around 116 temp. increase procharger p600b makes 37 temp. increase. Vortech horse power increase 37% procharger increase 58%. Try running 8 psi on our 9.0 to 1 compression motors on 91 octane with anything other than a intercooled kit. You will have to retard the timing or get higher octane. On top of that you still have excess heat being pumped into your motor. For example let's say it's summer time 85' outside and you have a vortech. When you want to run that GMC you've been after. At 8 psi the vortech will have a intake temp. of around 201 degress procharger 122. Remember retarding the timing means your lossing power and is the wrong way to do a supercharger application. And just another reminder vortech would not agree to head to head testing. Why not? Well thats because I believe prochargers are the best on the market. And I would bet alot of money that thier upcoming kit for our trucks will out perform anything on the market hands down. Also lets not forget the 3 year warranty. They will make around 55 to 60 percent increase which means my 00 5.4 will be around 380 to 400 h.p. at the flywheel. I personlly think intercooling is the only way to go... sorry for the long post and by the way take a look at some of prochargers add's in mustangs and fast fords and look at the transmission and bearing (Heavy duty) the only way to go..........

 

Frank, thanks for the response. Sounds like you should sell prochargers for a living, you should call them maybe they have a job for you! Seriously though,Correct me if I'm wrong but the procharger is a roots-eaton type like the Kenne Bell right? What about all this I here about continuous stress on the engine from these types of chargers versus the centrifigual types? Is there a concern about long term relilability? And also how will the tranny hold up to the added power?

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97 F150 4.6 XLT, Ext. Cab,Black/Grey, 6in. lift w/spindles and A-arms, Am. Racing 'Baja' wheels w/Goodyear 305's,Dynomax cutoff,Speed Grille,Pioneer deck and changer

 

Frank, thanks for the response. Sounds like you should sell prochargers for a living, you should call them maybe they have a job for you! Seriously though,Correct me if I'm wrong but the procharger is a roots-eaton type like the Kenne Bell right? What about all this I here about continuous stress on the engine from these types of chargers versus the centrifigual types? Is there a concern about long term relilability? And also how will the tranny hold up to the added power?

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97 F150 4.6 XLT, Ext. Cab,Black/Grey, 6in. lift w/spindles and A-arms, Am. Racing 'Baja' wheels w/Goodyear 305's,Dynomax cutoff,Speed Grille,Pioneer deck and changer

 

Road rage whats up? Prochargers are centrificals like pax or vor but these are built to hill. Not much stress on engine and yes these trannys can handle alot of H.P. 500 no joke. As for reliablity 3 year warranty. I have alot of experience in the automotive field and I speak from experience and I think this procharger kit will be a very good performer on our trucks. And think intercooling especially air to air, for street applications is the only way to go....

 

Frank do you have a link to there website?? Where can I find info on this?

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97' F150 Lariat S/C long bed 4x4 3:55LS 4.6L auto...SuperChip, Air Raid, 40 series Flowmaster cat back.
Colorado Springs, CO

 

ati procharger.com
they so a picture of a expidition cop suv.they give a % rate not any hard numbers on it.i called them on monday,they told me it would be two months till release.their number is (913)338-2886 , i think their in kansas.i tried to get so numbers from them but thay said their tring to improve the numbers on the web site.he said their will be no other supercharger that can come near the power.

 

the number i posted on 3-22 was for kenne bell not ati{sorry}.ati is 913-338-2886

 

Hi guys ATI prochargers web site is not that great. Go through everything and you find some interesting info. I believe alot of exagerated numbers and false advertisment makes vortech such a popular seller. But I got to tell you once everyone understands the great results of air to air intercooling ATI will be on top. And I say air to air is because because air to water intercoolers are not practical for street use. Even at 6psi with a ATI kit you will have more power then a pax. or a vor. And how come you are seeing vor. now having air to water inter. coolers after years of fighting detination? Also why has seanhyland come out with a air to air inter? Well thats because they all know of the heat factor. A ATI kit will have a much lower air intake charge temp at 9psi then a vor. pax. at 6psi. Some of you may be saying 8psi thats to much. Well guess what intercooled 8psi is safer then 6psi nonintercooled. And those looking at paxtons well they're $3500 needless to say thier over priced. And get this ATI 's kit for the cobra comes with a guartee's that it will out run any kit on the market on pump gas and also beat the other car by 5 m.p.h. Or they will buy back the kit or give you $2000. Now that is called backing your product. Ask the pros about this cobra kit it's the best there is. Just to let you guys know the blower that is going to be on the truck kits has been being tested for a year straight at ATI in house lab. And when I say a year straight it has been running at 12psi for a year straight. Different test have been done like with no oil, 300 degree heat put into the inlet, blocked the inlet, blocked the outlet. These blowers are second to none for a centrifical. These are industrial strenght blowers and will outlast your engine. Just think about it, 55 to 60 % increase with a cool intake charge. It doesn't get any better then that.....
Sorry for all the edits I'm a bad typewriter
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