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Old Jan 18, 2000 | 10:22 PM
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I'm looking for a little more spunk and can't afford nor do I want to explore the SC option right now.

So, my question is what will give me more HP or tourque for 250.00 or under?

Are 9mm wires and the Accell coil packs an option to put more fire in the hole. Has any body tried this combo?

Input greatly appreciated.

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Old Jan 18, 2000 | 11:34 PM
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I have done it all, the only gain was the superchip.

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Old Jan 19, 2000 | 12:45 AM
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If the Superchip is out of the question, go to a local exhaust shop and have a better system installed. This really shouldn't be more than $200. Use the other $50 to get a K&N filter and do the induction mods (free).
 
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Old Jan 19, 2000 | 02:39 AM
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What are the free induction mods you're referring to?
 
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Old Jan 19, 2000 | 08:20 AM
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Here is a link to the mod: https://www.f150online.com/tech/airbox.html

I used a drip pan from a stove bought new at K-Mart for $2.00 Mine looks like this: http://www.fortunecity.com/silversto...843/page2.html
Look at the words next to the Pic of the K&N and you will find more links to what it looks like now, insulated against engine heat. I will further "close up the box" and induce a ram air affect later in the sping. As you can see there are a few veriations of this air box mod. It's the first thing I did to the Truck and I FELT a difference! btw I like to save the OEM parts just in case I need a warrenty repair.
The second thing I did was "chip it" and now this Truck just kicks butt!
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Old Jan 19, 2000 | 09:48 AM
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Sorry but I forgot to include my signature. I allready have the Superchip, K&N with Intake tube, Free flow exhaust and the Wistler(AKA Poweraid). I was looking for the next piece of the power puzzle.


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Old Jan 19, 2000 | 10:05 AM
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You might be able to get a few horses by switching to a 0w30 synthetic oil,

Because of the less drag and friction you engine will get more response and more horses.

This has been proven on a dyno with a C5 corvette. Also this is what NASCAR racers use to qualify and increase their hp. So I can't see why it wouldn't work for your truck! Both Amsoil and Mobil make a 0w30
http://www.amsoil.com/products/tso.html
http://www.exxon.mobil.com/mobil1_ra..._30/index.html

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Old Jan 19, 2000 | 10:16 AM
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BigRed...Sounds like you have done most of the power mods...about the only thing left is a supercharger but those cost. How 'bout trading-in that 4.6 and get a truck with a 5.4? The extra power in the 5.4 is certainly worth the extra cost. IMHO, of course.

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Old Jan 19, 2000 | 10:19 AM
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BigRed2 I thought so in your case,(about your current mods) but I was refering to this for woodzach, who appeared not to know about the air thing.
For you go ahead and do the oil and the wire thing, depending on your miles you may need wire replacements anyway. Those, along with the velocity tube is next for me.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2000 | 11:20 AM
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ATST, I was considering the Mobil 1 and will do so in the next week or two. I have only 6k miles on my truck so the wires aren't bad yet, but would consider replacement if there are gains to be had. I have seen numerous bad posts about the factory wires and know they will fail eventually. The coil packs add an average of 10% more energy than the stock coils and I could get the whole nine yards for about 200.00. I like you prefer to keep all original equipment just in case I need to go back to stock.

 
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Old Jan 19, 2000 | 01:23 PM
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Does your Superchip affect the transmission?
Stiffer shifts, quicker shifts?
If not, try the Transgo shift kit.

A better MAF could help you also. Go to www.pro-flow.com for info. There is a group purchase on their meters running right now, so you can get one pretty cheap.

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Old Jan 19, 2000 | 01:57 PM
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Hey Birdman, the chip helps the tranny shifts big time and so did my new tranny cooler. I don't think the MAF will be of much gain for the 4.6L. I have heard the restrictions in the heads and intake are a major bottle neck for this engine.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2000 | 03:08 PM
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Dear Big Red2,

You're right, larger throttle bodies and mass airflow meters do not add any appreciable power gain on a relatively stock engine. It is only when you have mecnhanically modified the engine (ported heads, etc.) to the point that it is actually capable of outstripping the flow capacity of the stock components that you will see real power gains from larger TB's & MAF's. Supercharging is a good example.

These components are all rated at a certain number of CFM (cubic feet of air per minute), but they are rated at a certain pressure drop, or, inches of water column on a flow bench. For example, let's say you put a 650 cfm carb on an engine that can breathe considerably more, like a big block making 500 hp or more. That 650 cfm carb will in fact flow more than 650 cfm at that point, because the pressure drop is larger, and it is at *that* point that you actually gain power from larger intake components.

So for guys who have installed superchargers, or ported the cylinder heads, etc, they can benefit from larger TB's & MAF's, certainly.

So right now you're looking for the best bang-for-the-buck power gainer, after having already done the 3 areas that show the best gains, which are optimnizing the programming with the Superchip, reducing intake restriction, and reducing exhaust restriction. From there, you might want to think about the ignition system. Accel has their 300 series ignition components, which work well on these vehicles. I would probably say to install Accel's 300 series ignition system with wires & hotter coils. You could go with a set of Magnecor plug wires (not on the 5.4 of course, as it has the coil-on-plug system)and a set of Bosch Platinum+4 spark plugs, but I would probably go with Accel's system first, just from a bang-for-the-buck standpoint.

Once you've done the first 3 areas like you already have, all the other mods start really dropping off in terms of their actual performance improvement per dollar spent, so continually adding more horsepower is going to get progressively more expensive from here on out. It can still be done, it will simply cost more, like everything else in life.

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Old Jan 19, 2000 | 03:30 PM
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BigRed2,

You going to put the 0w30 Mobil??

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Old Jan 19, 2000 | 03:50 PM
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msparks, I plan on going to Mobile 1 5W-30 and trying that.

Mike, it sounds like the Accel coil packs and a good set of wires would help complement the other mods I have already installed. That was my line of thinking here to develop more fire in the hole and that should improve responsiveness. You are right I can only go so far due to funding and feasibility, this will probably be the last performance mods I do. I seen in another post you have a very interesting
F-150 with I believe a 4V 4.6L, care to elaborate on your set up.


Thanks for you help.




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