Engine Replacement for 5.4 3V- What else to replace ?

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Old Jun 5, 2017 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DruLat
Thanks guys. Would the 2008.5 model be compatible with the 04 or would that require extra part swapping? Does anyone know if the wiring harnesses would still connect ? Sorry if that's a dumb question, I know I ran into that issues once when I replaced an engine many years ago and tried to use a newer model. Thanks again for all the help and input
I was told they do interchange but require the intake and oil pan from the '04, though I never confirmed it.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 07:10 PM
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I've decided to just keep my original plan of using the used motor with 76k miles. I'm trying to decide between two mechanics who have two pretty different viewpoints. One is an actual shop who will do the engine swap for a grand, with no parts included. He will change the plugs, boots, rear main seal, timing chain, guides, tensioners, valve cover gasket, water pump, oil pump, and cam phasers for an additional $400 of labor. He seems to think it's a good idea to change these while the motor is out.
The other guy is an experienced retired mechanic who was recommended by a friend that will be doing the work in his garage. He's quoted me $1,300 to do the engine swap with new motorcraft plugs and boots, water pump, rear main seal and valve cover gasket with all parts included. His opinion is to check the condition of the timing chain system and phasers and only mess with those things if absolutely necessary. He feels that once you start messin with that stuff it could open a whole can of worms.
I'm a little torn of what strategy and guy to go with , it seems like the 1300 with parts is the better deal because the motorcraft plugs and boots will set me back 300 alone. At the same time, it's not an actual shop but he does have a good rep and a full set up in his garage. It's hard to tell if he's blowin smoke about the whole concept of not wanting to replace those things while the engine is out, any thoughts or suggestions ? Thanks guys
 
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Old Jun 8, 2017 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DruLat
I've decided to just keep my original plan of using the used motor with 76k miles. I'm trying to decide between two mechanics who have two pretty different viewpoints. One is an actual shop who will do the engine swap for a grand, with no parts included. He will change the plugs, boots, rear main seal, timing chain, guides, tensioners, valve cover gasket, water pump, oil pump, and cam phasers for an additional $400 of labor. He seems to think it's a good idea to change these while the motor is out.
The other guy is an experienced retired mechanic who was recommended by a friend that will be doing the work in his garage. He's quoted me $1,300 to do the engine swap with new motorcraft plugs and boots, water pump, rear main seal and valve cover gasket with all parts included. His opinion is to check the condition of the timing chain system and phasers and only mess with those things if absolutely necessary. He feels that once you start messin with that stuff it could open a whole can of worms.
I'm a little torn of what strategy and guy to go with , it seems like the 1300 with parts is the better deal because the motorcraft plugs and boots will set me back 300 alone. At the same time, it's not an actual shop but he does have a good rep and a full set up in his garage. It's hard to tell if he's blowin smoke about the whole concept of not wanting to replace those things while the engine is out, any thoughts or suggestions ? Thanks guys
I don't see how the $ math works out, but I wish you the best.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DruLat
I've decided to just keep my original plan of using the used motor with 76k miles. I'm trying to decide between two mechanics who have two pretty different viewpoints. One is an actual shop who will do the engine swap for a grand, with no parts included. He will change the plugs, boots, rear main seal, timing chain, guides, tensioners, valve cover gasket, water pump, oil pump, and cam phasers for an additional $400 of labor. He seems to think it's a good idea to change these while the motor is out.
The other guy is an experienced retired mechanic who was recommended by a friend that will be doing the work in his garage. He's quoted me $1,300 to do the engine swap with new motorcraft plugs and boots, water pump, rear main seal and valve cover gasket with all parts included. His opinion is to check the condition of the timing chain system and phasers and only mess with those things if absolutely necessary. He feels that once you start messin with that stuff it could open a whole can of worms.
I'm a little torn of what strategy and guy to go with , it seems like the 1300 with parts is the better deal because the motorcraft plugs and boots will set me back 300 alone. At the same time, it's not an actual shop but he does have a good rep and a full set up in his garage. It's hard to tell if he's blowin smoke about the whole concept of not wanting to replace those things while the engine is out, any thoughts or suggestions ? Thanks guys
IMO, it would be foolish to not replace the timing set & oil pump while you have the opportunity.
 
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