Need Oil Type Suggestion
But thinner oil runs cooler than thicker oil (less friction) - so you have a wash there, Gordo. You are about 20 years behind in your understanding of oil and engine technology. 10W-30 and 10W-40 is for old school pushrod motors with a lot sloppier clearances than the modern high tech OHC engines.
Use the recommended weight oil. Doesn't matter what brand and type you use as long as it meets Ford 930 specs. However, the Motorcraft semi-syn is the most cost-effective oil to use, all other things being equal. There is no need to use a full synthetic unless you want to extend your drain intervals. The fact that the Motorcraft oil is so cheap at Walmart makes it almost a no-brainer.
Oh yeah - Gordo, Ford does not make Motorcraft oil. Last I knew, Conoco makes it.
Use the recommended weight oil. Doesn't matter what brand and type you use as long as it meets Ford 930 specs. However, the Motorcraft semi-syn is the most cost-effective oil to use, all other things being equal. There is no need to use a full synthetic unless you want to extend your drain intervals. The fact that the Motorcraft oil is so cheap at Walmart makes it almost a no-brainer.
Oh yeah - Gordo, Ford does not make Motorcraft oil. Last I knew, Conoco makes it.
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Since you asked in here, MC oil and filter will unanimously win out the majority vote. It's the best bang for the buck and you certainly can't go wrong with it. There are other (and IMO, better) options, but you gotta be careful with those. Best thing you can do is make an educated decision that YOU are happy with and stick to it. Either way, not too many ways you can go wrong with a good oil these days.
Since you asked in here, MC oil and filter will unanimously win out the majority vote. It's the best bang for the buck and you certainly can't go wrong with it. There are other (and IMO, better) options, but you gotta be careful with those. Best thing you can do is make an educated decision that YOU are happy with and stick to it. Either way, not too many ways you can go wrong with a good oil these days.
Agreed.....
you see the keyword is RECOMMENDED. just because someone recommends a brand or weight doesn't means you have to use it. YOU go by what works. 20 years ago does not make a difference. HOT IS HOT COLD IS COLD. your gonna want the least friction as possible. The Ford engine is developed to give you the best possible output within a temp spec. why would you want a lighter thinner oil which is giving you the least protection against friction. when your engine coolant is at 210 degrees and cylinder head temp is 231 degrees? thats a hot engine! my understanding is my 05 f150 5.4 is supposed to be running at 198 degree coolant temp and 212 cylinder head temp.
Last edited by Galaxy; Sep 24, 2010 at 09:19 AM.
My truck has 186,000 miles and still working hard with only MC 5-20 and MC filter. here we have between 60 - 105 ºF the temperature indicator is ALWAYS at the midle of the scale. Otside temperature dons't amtter for engine temperature
As an example, oil temp tends to hover around 100 above outside air temp during average driving conditions, but will vary depending on traffic, freeway, towing, extended idling, etc...all variables and all influence oil temp where as these factors do not influence coolant temp unless there's a problem. If it's 20 outside, oil temp is 110ish. If it's 110 outside, oil will be around 200-205. Where's your coolant temp at these two extremes??? Right where it should be at 200 + - 5.
Not to kick a dead horse, but either of these two extremes are not outside performance parimeters for a 5W20 oil...that's what these motors are designed for. Trying to outsmart the motor for what it needs in an oil is an exhausted effort in futility.
Last edited by Galaxy; Sep 24, 2010 at 09:15 AM.
To the OP:
Google "Bob is the Oil Guy"
Lots of good info there, some too technical for me and maybe you.
My local Wally has MC semi-syn 5w-20 for $12 for 5 quarts! Buy another quart and a MC filter and I have a 5K oil change for $20 bucks or less.
Are there BETTER oils out there than MC, sure. But since MC is REALLY good oil, why waste the extra $$$ for not that much better. DOn't let anyone talk YOU out of peace of mind. I belive peace of mind is PRICELESS. If Mobil 1 was the SAME price...yea, I'd probably it or Pennzoil Platinum. Pennzoil Platinum is actually liked MORE than Mobil 1 on Bob is the oil guy.
Buy what makes YOU happy. For me: I'm staying with MC 5w-20 and MC filters.---DirtySCREW
Google "Bob is the Oil Guy"
Lots of good info there, some too technical for me and maybe you.
My local Wally has MC semi-syn 5w-20 for $12 for 5 quarts! Buy another quart and a MC filter and I have a 5K oil change for $20 bucks or less.
Are there BETTER oils out there than MC, sure. But since MC is REALLY good oil, why waste the extra $$$ for not that much better. DOn't let anyone talk YOU out of peace of mind. I belive peace of mind is PRICELESS. If Mobil 1 was the SAME price...yea, I'd probably it or Pennzoil Platinum. Pennzoil Platinum is actually liked MORE than Mobil 1 on Bob is the oil guy.
Buy what makes YOU happy. For me: I'm staying with MC 5w-20 and MC filters.---DirtySCREW
To get a good reading of the coolant temp you'll need a scan tool, scan gauge, or programmer and then you'll need to realize the ECT is a inferred reading from the CHT.
Only to double chec I'll check again how much variaton is there in the ECT (engine coolant temperature) during different driving and otside conditions.
Your engine runs hotter if the outside temps fluctuate by 20 or 30 degrees? Something is wrong with your engine.
Also the viscosity of the oil should not chance once it heats up slightly anyway.
Also the viscosity of the oil should not chance once it heats up slightly anyway.
Last edited by tcope; Sep 26, 2010 at 01:39 PM.
Oil will be around 200-205. Where's your coolant temp at these two extremes??? Right where it should be at 200 + - 5.
Not to kick a dead horse, but either of these two extremes are not outside performance perimeters for a 5W20 oil...that's what these motors are designed for. Trying to outsmart the motor for what it needs in an oil is an exhausted effort in futility.
Not to kick a dead horse, but either of these two extremes are not outside performance perimeters for a 5W20 oil...that's what these motors are designed for. Trying to outsmart the motor for what it needs in an oil is an exhausted effort in futility.
you see the keyword is RECOMMENDED. just because someone recommends a brand or weight doesn't means you have to use it. YOU go by what works. 20 years ago does not make a difference. HOT IS HOT COLD IS COLD. your gonna want the least friction as possible. The Ford engine is developed to give you the best possible output within a temp spec. why would you want a lighter thinner oil which is giving you the least protection against friction. when your engine coolant is at 210 degrees and cylinder head temp is 231 degrees? thats a hot engine! my understanding is my 05 f150 5.4 is supposed to be running at 198 degree coolant temp and 212 cylinder head temp.
Nice boat Keith, i have the same one but with a single console. What year is yours?




