Project Faster150!!!

Old Sep 8, 2008 | 10:09 PM
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While Im a 5four man myself, it will be cool to see a 4six truck that can hopefully hang in there with things pretty well. I gave you a lot of chit with your bolt on 4six, but its going to be fun to see a lil 4.6 truck that should be able to hold its own out there.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 11:08 PM
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i have no trouble running , other fords, chevy, or dodge, i've only lost to a 5.4L s/c harley truck, and that dude was fast, and a 199? camaro with Ls1 motor, but i tried them all. i think my 4.6 for its class is very fast. i've ran it 129 mph and drive line started to feel shaky, i have a garmin to test mph and it read 129, truck shifts at 5800 instead of 5000, little upgrades .thinking of a wet 50 hp shot of nitrous only when needed.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 12:11 AM
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Your running your stock tranny up to 5800RPM!!!!!!!
 
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Bartak1
Your running your stock tranny up to 5800RPM!!!!!!!
i pushed mine to 6K no problem.


got the front cover cleaned up fairly well and the rough casting flaws sanded off the body shop next door has some connections and is gonna get the stuff blasted and powder coated fro me



 
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 05:38 PM
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yea, i can run it up to 6,000 but that would be maxed out and i am still stock lower end motor.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Bartak1
Your running your stock tranny up to 5800RPM!!!!!!!
HI!... I ran my stock 4R70-W to 6100rpm for 4 years. The built tranny went to 7000RPM. LOL!
 
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 10:24 PM
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Damn, I didnt think it was possible to do that with the stock torque convertors.
I thought they had a pretty high potential to balloon at much over 5500...
 
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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HI!... Well you didn't say anything about the TQ converter. The trans will handle over 6000RPM all day long. The TQ converter on the other hand won't. In that 4 year span I went through 4 converters. Two stock units, a DAYCO, and a custom built one. Then I went with a Precision Industries "STALLION" converter and couldn't be happier.



 
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Faster150
this guy rehermorrison kinda convinced me not to go with a long stroke motor if ur going for peak performance

http://www.rehermorrison.com/techTalk/53.htm

An engine produces peak torque at the rpm where it is most efficient. Efficiency is the result of many factors, including airflow, combustion, and parasitic losses such as friction and windage. Comparing two engines with the same displacement, a long-stroke/small-bore combination is simply less efficient than a short-stroke/big-bore combination on several counts.

Big bores promote better breathing. If you compare cylinder head airflow on a small-bore test fixture and on a large-bore fixture, the bigger bore will almost invariably improve airflow due to less valve shrouding. If the goal is maximum performance, the larger bore diameter allows the installation of larger valves, which further improve power.

A short crankshaft stroke reduces parasitic losses. Ring drag is the major source of internal friction. With a shorter stroke, the pistons don’t travel as far with every revolution. The crankshaft assembly also rotates in a smaller arc so the windage is reduced. In a wet-sump engine, a shorter stroke also cuts down on oil pressure problems caused by windage and oil aeration.
Did you even read what you posted ? The point being made was for two identical displacement engines.

The 5.4 does not suffer from being a "small bore" engine - it can breath as well as a 4.6 of comparable configuration.

Add in the longer stroke which produces MORE torque (what you need to move a heavy vehicle) and it makes sense why Ford uses the 5.4 as a truck motor.

As far as "peak performance", has any 4.6 equipped truck gotten anywhere near the times posted by the Lightning crowd ?

Take the '03 / '04 Cobra engine - 390 HP vs the 5.4L Lightning @ 380 HP. Drop them both into your favorite flavor of F150 and which do you think will outperform the other ?

There is no replacement for displacement....
 
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Neal
HI!... Well you didn't say anything about the TQ converter. The trans will handle over 6000RPM all day long. The TQ converter on the other hand won't. In that 4 year span I went through 4 converters. Two stock units, a DAYCO, and a custom built one. Then I went with a Precision Industries "STALLION" converter and couldn't be happier.
Ehh, yeah, spose I should have been a little more specific
 
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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 01:13 AM
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I thought this was a build thread....seems to have turned into yet another 5.4 is better thread........
 
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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ONELOWF
I thought this was a build thread....seems to have turned into yet another 5.4 is better thread........
yeh lol i had a feeling it would turn into this. probably has alot to do with Jealousy of not saving and finding the deals to do it themselves.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by B-Man

There is no replacement for displacement....
wow that was an ignorant comment
 
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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 11:01 PM
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well im excited to see how it turns out. should be interesting. curious to see what kinda low end tourqe your gonna have if any with a 4.6 and a PC. but once that thing makes boost it should be gone, prolly long gone lol. i get all excited when anyway does something cool like this with their truck, who cares 4.6 or 5.4? its fun to play with whatever you got
 
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Faster150
wow that was an ignorant comment
no its not, ask your girlfriend when she's mad at you, you'll get an honest response
 
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