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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 01:09 PM
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i say you could have fit another 1000 in there
saweet man. i think you know you MAX limit now lol. i'm with you.. i'll MAKE it work.. EVEN with my truck.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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Ya and plus i didnt want my buddy's tranny on his cummins to blow up i know theres room there for more but theres not enogh room on the bump stops haha if i woulda added another 50lbs my bed woulda been sittin on the axle.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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exactly, then you could load all you want on there right? theoretically right? i mean youre sitting ON the axle
 
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 03:20 PM
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several months ago in Mesa, AZ a 16 year old kid was T boned and killed by an overloaded jacked up pick up pulling a boat. The driver ran the red light because he didn't have the braking power to stop.

I don't understand why someone would endanger other peoples lives and then brag about it.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by rmeidlinger
I don't understand why someone would endanger other peoples lives and then brag about it.
The short answer is because they're motherfawking MORONS. Plain and simple. Their 'badass truck' is capable of moving anything they can hitch to it, and eventually stop too. So what's going to happen?

That sort of short sighted narrow minded mindset ends up getting people killed. An "I'm sorry" doesn't cut it when you plowed over someones child and killed them deader than a door nail, because you chose to act in a manner that you consider macho and or manly. It's stupid and I was polite about pointing it out earlier in this thread.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by crash_lucky13
exactly, then you could load all you want on there right? theoretically right? i mean youre sitting ON the axle

Haha i never thought of that one haha.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 11:17 AM
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simple physics

Originally Posted by JMC
If you hit a bump and bottom out with 2500 lbs in the bed you could bend the frame. The springs are rated somewhere near 3500 lbs so you are close to or just over the limit there. The truck can pull a some where in the neighborhood of 10,000 lbs. so the power train is safe with 2500 lbs in the bed.

Pulling a load on a separate trailer is different than having it in the bed. To get an idea, if you had 3000 lbs in trailer, you would have probably less than 300 actual lbs of force applying downward on your hitch. That's what's referred to "tongue weight."

From Uhaul.com:
Tongue weight - The downward weight applied by the towable equipment on the hitch ball. Generally tongue weight should not be more than 10% of the gross trailer weight.

Think of it this way (I digress...): Would your rather have 100 lbs in your back pack, or put that 100 lbs on a skate board and pull it? I'd rather pull it. That would be much easier.

You figure having weight on your hitch would be reasonably similar to having it in the bed of your truck... So using uHauls 10% number, that would be like towing a trailer that weighed 25,650 lbs. I think the truck is rated for 9,000 lbs.

Obviously, you have already done it. But... you probably put some serious wear on your poor transmission. I don't ever want to buy a used vehicle from you! but that is impressive that a 1/2 ton could still tackle the job.
 

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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 12:39 PM
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ya if i had a trailer i would have used it but i dont have one. haha my transmission is already gone... i did brake torques every day after school for 6 months 5 days a week so 1st gear isnt loving life. it slips about once a month haha. and when i did a tranny fluid change i found part of a clutch!!!
 
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 03:29 PM
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I won't argue total weight scenarios with you. The truck can easily haul close to 10,000 lbs and it doesn't matter where the weight is in the configuration. The transmission has to be able to move the vehicle or combination of vehicles to be able to pull it.

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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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Cool

HI!... I've had up to 1750LBS in the bed of my 07 RANGER with 4.0L with tow package. No problems. Truck dropped about 3 inches and was still about 3 inches from the bump stops. It accelerated with no issues and slowed with no issues. Ford rates the payload in my RANGER brochure at nearly 1500LBS. No worries here.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 12:07 AM
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If the weight is on its own set of wheels (i.e. a trailer), then it absolultey matters where the weight is.

You're talking about payload capacity vs. towing capacity. Two completey different things.

Look at these specs:
http://www.fordf150.net/specs/05f150.php

Granted, these are for an '05, but you get an idea of the differences.
Scroll down to the bottom to the "Weight and Towing" section.
Notice the differences between "Payload Capacity" and "Max Towing Capacity"

Having weight in the bed of your truck and having it on a trailer are very different.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by rmeidlinger
several months ago in Mesa, AZ a 16 year old kid was T boned and killed by an overloaded jacked up pick up pulling a boat. The driver ran the red light because he didn't have the braking power to stop.

I don't understand why someone would endanger other peoples lives and then brag about it.
So big rigs are always over loaded? since they are trained to not stop if they can't?
 
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by maddoughboy
So big rigs are always over loaded? since they are trained to not stop if they can't?
I've read this several times and I have no idea what you are trying to say.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 09:43 AM
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What is the actual difference in trying to accelerate 4536kgs (10,000 lbs)of mass from a stop based on where the mass is situated?

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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 09:47 AM
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Driveline angles and over burdenend wheels, bearings, and other components for starters. Moving weight or mass does not always equate to doing it safely.
 
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