no start!
Last edited by justin mccluske; Jul 13, 2008 at 09:21 PM.
It was my chip! After my dyno tune last week my truck was acting funny, it had a ruff idle and it thru a CPS, right, and left bank o2 sensor codes and i really hadent driven it till yesterday. So today i was tryng everything todo with the pats because the theft light was blinking really fast for about 30 sec and then flash a code 16 wich means that the pats can not read my key but this also happened on the dyno a few times and the fix their was to pull the chip and reseat it. So as i pulled the chip today it felt warm and the truck still would not start so i pulled my PCM harness out as far as i could to test for power and for the hell of it I put my spare PCM in and it worked! The reson it did not work yesterday when i was on the side of the road is because when i installed my spare PCM i also installed my chip wich is bad and i think killed my original PCM.

I doubt it
Now you know damn well you made it sound like you were getting code "16"from your Odometer. You said nothing about a scanner. I know pre 99's didn't have digital- Guess what, no PAT's either, for that matter. Yea , I didn't see you had a 97 until later on page one and I CLARIFIED that back then. Freakin pay attention! - Dipsh^t. 
You don't like it then go away - Your so damn confusing - How could anyone help ? I still can't believe you left all that sh^t out a few posts up. Think what you want about me. If your smart, you'll learn the RIGHT lesson here.
I doubt it

You don't like it then go away - Your so damn confusing - How could anyone help ? I still can't believe you left all that sh^t out a few posts up. Think what you want about me. If your smart, you'll learn the RIGHT lesson here.
I doubt it

97-98 Security Theft lights are in the cluster unless they did something different on the Expy's . Code 16 on a 97 - The number 16 came up ?
Your High ! No PATS on the 97-98 150's - Expy's are pretty much set up the same way. Prove me wrong or yourself right, if you can and I'll take it all back. Until then, I don't believe it.
BTW - I am paying attention, even you should be able to figure that out -
brew, theres part of the pats system on our 97-98's. i don't know how functional it is though. i dont think its a true pats system, hell i dont think it will even do anything unless the clusters out.
OP- i as well am unaware of this flashing code 16 on the theft light on any model.
OP- i as well am unaware of this flashing code 16 on the theft light on any model.
Yea, Klitch -
I don't even think it's called a PATS system - It's something else that really never amounted to much. Lock your doors w/remote / horn goes off your set right ? I know those can be a PITA in the later models tho. I could have swore they read out on the DIG OD Window??
Wait, it would be on the DVD right. I can find out another way. Have to wait tho, I gotta get to work - I might be back in a couple hrs if CAT didn't fix my machine Saturday. If they did , I won't be around till after 8 in the PM
- Freakin Slave Drivers, but I love payday
Regardless, I'll find out what sh^t for brains is trying to say, sooner or latuh
I don't even think it's called a PATS system - It's something else that really never amounted to much. Lock your doors w/remote / horn goes off your set right ? I know those can be a PITA in the later models tho. I could have swore they read out on the DIG OD Window??
Wait, it would be on the DVD right. I can find out another way. Have to wait tho, I gotta get to work - I might be back in a couple hrs if CAT didn't fix my machine Saturday. If they did , I won't be around till after 8 in the PM
- Freakin Slave Drivers, but I love payday
Regardless, I'll find out what sh^t for brains is trying to say, sooner or latuh
I havea 98 expy with a digital odometer. I am going to do the light fix on it when it is here long enough. It lives in Houston, so I haven't seen much of it in the last 6 months, maybe the last year. I don't think it has any kind of Pats tho. But the lights on the odometer work intermittenly.
Matter of fact I can't find my link to that thread. But I'll look it up when the truck is here long enough for me to dig into it.
Matter of fact I can't find my link to that thread. But I'll look it up when the truck is here long enough for me to dig into it.
97-98 Security Theft lights are in the cluster unless they did something different on the Expy's . Code 16 on a 97 - The number 16 came up ?
Your High ! No PATS on the 97-98 150's - Expy's are pretty much set up the same way. Prove me wrong or yourself right, if you can and I'll take it all back. Until then, I don't believe it.
BTW - I am paying attention, even you should be able to figure that out -

Your High ! No PATS on the 97-98 150's - Expy's are pretty much set up the same way. Prove me wrong or yourself right, if you can and I'll take it all back. Until then, I don't believe it.
BTW - I am paying attention, even you should be able to figure that out -

http://www.ford-trucks.com/tsb/fullt...php?tsb=01-6-2
http://v8sho.com/SHO/Passive%20Anti%...%2099-26-6.htm
http://www.fordf150.net/forums/53418...xpedition.html
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...5054651AA9PsDG
This is where i found out what code 16 was
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Car-Alarm...expedition.htm
thanks for letting me know there is another difference btwn 97/98 f150s and expys now too.
i wonder if the 97-98 expy cluster is different than the rest of the years too? perhaps moddable to work with a 97-98 f150?
i wonder if the 97-98 expy cluster is different than the rest of the years too? perhaps moddable to work with a 97-98 f150?
I thought in 99 the cluster change and looks more like the lightning but with a 100mph speedo.



- Why in the heck didn't you make the post above, your first one????????? 
