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Water for gas ???
Ok guys one of my students brought his car in for a science project. He had hooked up a device that uses water to increase his gas mileage. We took the car to a safety inspecter for the state and he tested the air quility on the exhause and it was reall good----The student got this from this website and You Tube
http://water4gas.com/2books.htm Any one ever hear of this ???
http://water4gas.com/2books.htm Any one ever hear of this ???
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Ok guys one of my students brought his car in for a science project. He had hooked up a device that uses water to increase his gas mileage. We took the car to a safety inspecter for the state and he tested the air quility on the exhause and it was reall good----The student got this from this website and You Tube
http://water4gas.com/2books.htm Any one ever hear of this ???
http://water4gas.com/2books.htm Any one ever hear of this ???
Ok guys one of my students brought his car in for a science project. He had hooked up a device that uses water to increase his gas mileage. We took the car to a safety inspecter for the state and he tested the air quility on the exhause and it was reall good----The student got this from this website and You Tube
http://water4gas.com/2books.htm Any one ever hear of this ???
http://water4gas.com/2books.htm Any one ever hear of this ???
I'd be concerned about long term effects on the vehicle.
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Ok guys one of my students brought his car in for a science project. He had hooked up a device that uses water to increase his gas mileage. We took the car to a safety inspecter for the state and he tested the air quility on the exhause and it was reall good----The student got this from this website and You Tube
http://water4gas.com/2books.htm Any one ever hear of this ???
http://water4gas.com/2books.htm Any one ever hear of this ???
You didn't answer my questions.... It'd be a pretty weak science project if you didn't bother to check the results...
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Saturday, May 31, 2008
News from National Hydrogen Association
HHO Gas fans, there is some updated news from the National Hydrogen Association on what they call Hydrogen Fuel Injection Systems which we call hho gas generators or running your car on water. It's on the water hybrids page. I interviewed Patrick Searfass this week about this technology and he gave me alot of confidence that this industry is truly rising up out of nowhere and could become pervasive rapidly. It is very exciting.
Also, I put together a little post on pros/cons of do it yourself vs complete kits. Think of it as meta data based on all the ebooks and kits reviewed on the site. Of course, we're still waiting for the Aquygen folks to make some announcements about their product plans but as mentioned previously, it appears they will focus on the trucking industry first.
Posted by b at 5/31/2008 02:53:00 PM 0 comments
Labels: hho gas, Hydrogen on demand, water fuel cars, water hybrid, water4gas
Tuesday, May 27, 2008
3rd Party Validation
One of my preoccupations with this blog lately has been to round up all the 3rd party validation testing that's been performed on hho gas based hybrids. It hasnt been easy because companies marketing these solutions seem to be growing rapidly just based on field tests of prospective customers who eventually become customers proper.
Today, there was a news story done where the news station crew itself installed a unit on their news truck and ran a before/after test on a DYNAMOMETER. They found their Dodge SUV increased MPG from 9mpg to 23mpg. That's a 60% increase in mpg.
I added the story to the Water Hybrids Review Page. Check it out!
Posted by b at 5/27/2008 05:25:00 PM 0 comments
Labels: hho gas, Hydrogen on demand, wa, water fuel cars, water fuel cells, water hybrid, water4gas
Reviews
I did a little browsing of the web over the weekend and the explosion of websites, products and interest in hho gas is becoming mind boggling. In the coming days, we will start investigating more commercial entities targeting industry and fleets. And additionally, we may begin adding more products to the Water Hybrid Systems Review page. For now it's a good starting point if you are looking for information about some of the ebooks (like Water4Gas) and kits (like Hydrogen Boost) on the market.
Posted by b at 5/27/2008 07:38:00 AM 0 comments
Labels: hho gas, Hydrogen on demand, water fuel cells, water4gas
Friday, May 23, 2008
Korean Government mandates HHO
I've been fortunate to be communicating with Kevin Kantola from Hydrogen Car & Vehicles about HHO and it's future. He is certainly one of the most knowledgeable sources of information for hydrogen generators for cars both fuel cells and hybrid plugins. He's a much accomplished and dedicated blogger.
Today he posted a great article on HHO generators and hydrogen on demand systems. Of note to me was the move by the South Korean Government to mandate HHO be installed on over 100,000 transport trucks in large part to cut down on emissions. Also of interest was a company called Hydrorunner which has 3rd party verification that their HHO on demand product is not a scam. There's alot of great information on Kevin's site.
Posted by b at 5/23/2008 04:43:00 PM 0 comments
Labels: hho gas, Hydrogen on demand
Saturday, May 17, 2008
1996 Cadillac from 19mpg to 53mpg
You really need to read about this guy in Alabama, Larry Thrasher, who has been experimenting with his own hydrogen on demand system for the past 18 months. He was recently covered by his local press for apparently creating a system that took his 1996 Cadillac from 19 to 53mpg. BTW, his wife's 1996 Toyota gets 71mpg. He uses a 14 gallon water tank.
He'll speak about his findings on Monday, May 19 at Calhoun Community College in Decatur, from 6-9pm. Thrasher has rented Calhoun's Aerospace Training Center for the lecture, and will charge $60.00 per person.
News from National Hydrogen Association
HHO Gas fans, there is some updated news from the National Hydrogen Association on what they call Hydrogen Fuel Injection Systems which we call hho gas generators or running your car on water. It's on the water hybrids page. I interviewed Patrick Searfass this week about this technology and he gave me alot of confidence that this industry is truly rising up out of nowhere and could become pervasive rapidly. It is very exciting.
Also, I put together a little post on pros/cons of do it yourself vs complete kits. Think of it as meta data based on all the ebooks and kits reviewed on the site. Of course, we're still waiting for the Aquygen folks to make some announcements about their product plans but as mentioned previously, it appears they will focus on the trucking industry first.
Posted by b at 5/31/2008 02:53:00 PM 0 comments
Labels: hho gas, Hydrogen on demand, water fuel cars, water hybrid, water4gas
Tuesday, May 27, 2008
3rd Party Validation
One of my preoccupations with this blog lately has been to round up all the 3rd party validation testing that's been performed on hho gas based hybrids. It hasnt been easy because companies marketing these solutions seem to be growing rapidly just based on field tests of prospective customers who eventually become customers proper.
Today, there was a news story done where the news station crew itself installed a unit on their news truck and ran a before/after test on a DYNAMOMETER. They found their Dodge SUV increased MPG from 9mpg to 23mpg. That's a 60% increase in mpg.
I added the story to the Water Hybrids Review Page. Check it out!
Posted by b at 5/27/2008 05:25:00 PM 0 comments
Labels: hho gas, Hydrogen on demand, wa, water fuel cars, water fuel cells, water hybrid, water4gas
Reviews
I did a little browsing of the web over the weekend and the explosion of websites, products and interest in hho gas is becoming mind boggling. In the coming days, we will start investigating more commercial entities targeting industry and fleets. And additionally, we may begin adding more products to the Water Hybrid Systems Review page. For now it's a good starting point if you are looking for information about some of the ebooks (like Water4Gas) and kits (like Hydrogen Boost) on the market.
Posted by b at 5/27/2008 07:38:00 AM 0 comments
Labels: hho gas, Hydrogen on demand, water fuel cells, water4gas
Friday, May 23, 2008
Korean Government mandates HHO
I've been fortunate to be communicating with Kevin Kantola from Hydrogen Car & Vehicles about HHO and it's future. He is certainly one of the most knowledgeable sources of information for hydrogen generators for cars both fuel cells and hybrid plugins. He's a much accomplished and dedicated blogger.
Today he posted a great article on HHO generators and hydrogen on demand systems. Of note to me was the move by the South Korean Government to mandate HHO be installed on over 100,000 transport trucks in large part to cut down on emissions. Also of interest was a company called Hydrorunner which has 3rd party verification that their HHO on demand product is not a scam. There's alot of great information on Kevin's site.
Posted by b at 5/23/2008 04:43:00 PM 0 comments
Labels: hho gas, Hydrogen on demand
Saturday, May 17, 2008
1996 Cadillac from 19mpg to 53mpg
You really need to read about this guy in Alabama, Larry Thrasher, who has been experimenting with his own hydrogen on demand system for the past 18 months. He was recently covered by his local press for apparently creating a system that took his 1996 Cadillac from 19 to 53mpg. BTW, his wife's 1996 Toyota gets 71mpg. He uses a 14 gallon water tank.
He'll speak about his findings on Monday, May 19 at Calhoun Community College in Decatur, from 6-9pm. Thrasher has rented Calhoun's Aerospace Training Center for the lecture, and will charge $60.00 per person.
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Wikipedia
Oxyhydrogen
Automotive
Oxyhydrogen is often mentioned in conjunction with devices that claim to increase automotive engine efficiency. See water-fuelled car
Many of these claims,prima facie, violate the Law of conservation of energy. See Conservation of energy and Electrolysis of water:Efficiency. To date, all of these claims have been fraudulent.
Water-fuelled car
A water-fuelled car is a hypothetical motor car that uses water as its fuel or produces fuel from water on-board, with no other energy input.
The water-fuelled car, on the other hand, purports to create or extract energy from water itself, which would be the basis of a perpetual motion machine. Water-fuelled cars have been mentioned in history books, newspaper and popular science magazines, and urban legends since the 1800s. Many accounts describe engines that run on water, frequently claiming suppression by government or private interests to explain delays in production.[1] There are currently no commercially available products based on these technologies, and several have been shown in court to have been fraudulently used to solicit investment funds.
The gasoline pill and related additives
Related to the water-fuelled car hoax are claims that additives, often a pill, convert the water into usable fuel. Recall that in a carbide lamp, a high-energy additive produces the combustible fuel. This gasoline pill has been allegedly demonstrated on a full-sized vehicle, as reported in 1980 in Mother Earth News. Once again, water itself cannot contribute any energy to the process, the additive or the pill is the fuel.
A popular science article in New Scientist in July 2006 described a new type of engine under the misleading headline "A fuel tank full of water".[7] New Scientist later published a letter criticizing them for making "outrageous claims" and pointing out that the engine actually used boron as its fuel.[8] In this case, the fuel is sodium borohydride, a high energy compound that releases hydrogen upon contact with water:
NaBH4 + 4 H2O → NaB(OH)4 + 2 H2
Hydrogen burns in air (to produce water):
2 H2 + O2 → 2 H2O
A number of chemical compounds combine with water to release hydrogen, but in all cases the energy required to produce such compounds exceeds the energy obtained upon their combustion.
Claims of suppressed inventions
"Inventors" of water-fuelled engines often claim that the technology has long existed but is suppressed internationally by conventional fuel suppliers such as oil companies.[9] Patenting an invention does not suppress it because the contents of all patents are publicly available for inspection.
Automotive
Oxyhydrogen is often mentioned in conjunction with devices that claim to increase automotive engine efficiency. See water-fuelled car
Many of these claims,prima facie, violate the Law of conservation of energy. See Conservation of energy and Electrolysis of water:Efficiency. To date, all of these claims have been fraudulent.
Water-fuelled car
A water-fuelled car is a hypothetical motor car that uses water as its fuel or produces fuel from water on-board, with no other energy input.
The water-fuelled car, on the other hand, purports to create or extract energy from water itself, which would be the basis of a perpetual motion machine. Water-fuelled cars have been mentioned in history books, newspaper and popular science magazines, and urban legends since the 1800s. Many accounts describe engines that run on water, frequently claiming suppression by government or private interests to explain delays in production.[1] There are currently no commercially available products based on these technologies, and several have been shown in court to have been fraudulently used to solicit investment funds.
The gasoline pill and related additives
Related to the water-fuelled car hoax are claims that additives, often a pill, convert the water into usable fuel. Recall that in a carbide lamp, a high-energy additive produces the combustible fuel. This gasoline pill has been allegedly demonstrated on a full-sized vehicle, as reported in 1980 in Mother Earth News. Once again, water itself cannot contribute any energy to the process, the additive or the pill is the fuel.
A popular science article in New Scientist in July 2006 described a new type of engine under the misleading headline "A fuel tank full of water".[7] New Scientist later published a letter criticizing them for making "outrageous claims" and pointing out that the engine actually used boron as its fuel.[8] In this case, the fuel is sodium borohydride, a high energy compound that releases hydrogen upon contact with water:
NaBH4 + 4 H2O → NaB(OH)4 + 2 H2
Hydrogen burns in air (to produce water):
2 H2 + O2 → 2 H2O
A number of chemical compounds combine with water to release hydrogen, but in all cases the energy required to produce such compounds exceeds the energy obtained upon their combustion.
Claims of suppressed inventions
"Inventors" of water-fuelled engines often claim that the technology has long existed but is suppressed internationally by conventional fuel suppliers such as oil companies.[9] Patenting an invention does not suppress it because the contents of all patents are publicly available for inspection.
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Just wondering...if automakers need to meet ever-rising CAFE standards, why aren't they already using this?
You know, their R&D budgets are higher than almost anyone mentioned in the above blurbs...
Also, those MPG increases violate the laws of physics.
A 96 Caddy that triples its fuel mileage??? How??? The car didn't get 2/3's lighter, the engine isn't 2/3's smaller...their is no free lunch in nature, either.
P.S. Most 97-later F150 engines (4.2/4.6/5.4), yes all v6/v8 gassers, are LEV rated or better possibly. They should run clean without our screwing things up.
You know, their R&D budgets are higher than almost anyone mentioned in the above blurbs...
Also, those MPG increases violate the laws of physics.
A 96 Caddy that triples its fuel mileage??? How??? The car didn't get 2/3's lighter, the engine isn't 2/3's smaller...their is no free lunch in nature, either.
P.S. Most 97-later F150 engines (4.2/4.6/5.4), yes all v6/v8 gassers, are LEV rated or better possibly. They should run clean without our screwing things up.
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